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Author:  Captain Xavious [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:14 am ]
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Having some thoughts already bouncing around in my head and seeing DK's drillidea again, it gives me ideas.

First off, a drill would probably not be put into military use, but, you know... there probably would be a lot of corporate owned planets/colonies that would be dedicated to mining their own resources, and that could prove a valuable resource to take over by enemies (terran or otherwise).

Something like this might catch the miners unaware, but not necessarily unequipped. Chances are, in the future, the miners would be equipped with at least some sort of protective armor, maybe even light power armor, both probably with sealed environments and some duration of emergency air supply. Plus they would have explosives, rock saws, drills, picks, etc.

Red Faction kind of helped give me some ideas, but I don't really have any ideas further than this, so interpret this how you like and get some brainstorming going on here, maybe get an idea where this could lead to and hopefully give the RS guys a few decent ideas to look into. :)
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:12 pm ]
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What are we supposed to be brainstorming?
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:22 pm ]
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How the war in the PA universe goes on, I believe.
The way I see it is entire cities in ruins while there is gun fire and chaos every where, or plain silence after a war in an area is over.

Kind of like WW3, except replace World with Universe.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:27 pm ]
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Capital ship space battles between Terrans and Skrith.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:27 pm ]
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the war is ravaging the Outworld planets, massive industrial wastelands swarming with Krao.. Most of the war is fought on these Outworld planets, and have been horribly ruined in most cases.. UTC try and defend as many operational colonies as they can, whilst also trying to reclaim as much of the lost land as possible.. :)
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:31 pm ]
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So the war is fought more on ground than in space? Cool.
Author:  St!gar [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:48 pm ]
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Mr.UglyPants wrote:
So the war is fought more on ground than in space? Cool.


Quoted for truth.
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:59 pm ]
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I prefer ground battles greatly, not only are they more epic and rich of loud sounds and all sorts of effects, but the atmosphere makes you glued to watching & taking part in it.

As for PA, remember City 17 from HL2? That is the city that comes to my mind when I think of a whole wartorn city currently under fire around every corner.
Author:  Miracle Matter [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:54 pm ]
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And with this, Ballistic comes full circle, back to the original "fighting miners" of Unreal Tournament.

Not that that's a bad thing... :d
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:01 pm ]
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I like UT99's story tons better than UT2a, UT2b and UT3's, if BW brings it back to life I'll be a happy person.
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:14 pm ]
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I was kind of aiming for what the inhabitants of the Outworld planets would do to defend their homes, but the discussion on the ravages of war is also an interesting idea. 8)

Oh... I forgot about that part... fighting miners...

But still, that would be a rather small part of the story and wouldn't really have a lot of elaboration, methinks, although some of the equipment would be nice to have, i.e. rock saw and power armor... ;)
Author:  St!gar [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:23 pm ]
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On the subject of power armour, I'm willing to bet those Terrans have awesome armoured uniforms, their weaponry taken into account...
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:32 pm ]
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Yeah, me too. 8)
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:48 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
As for PA, remember City 17 from HL2? That is the city that comes to my mind when I think of a whole wartorn city currently under fire around every corner.


I picture it like that, minus the headcrabs, and much, much worse, namely practically leveled.
Author:  SX [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:40 pm ]
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So what doe PA use for currency and riches whatnot?
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:52 pm ]
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What do you mean? PA is the name of a mod that paints a certain picture of the universe, economy systems will be non existant I believe. Species will try to survive based on will rather than income.
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:04 pm ]
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Oh, there will still be economy, and lots of it, just not to the deprived souls that are working for the huge corporations that (from how I understand it) dominate many of the worlds.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:35 am ]
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How lovely. I guess the universe isn't as ♥♥♥♥♥ up as we (Bjossi) thought.
Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:47 am ]
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Economy in a wartorn universe? I find that hard to believe.
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:56 am ]
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There are still large businesses that have large roles in the wars, at least from what I can tell from some of the things said earlier.

Doesn't mean the majority of people take part of it, but keep in mind, whenever there are wars, someone is making money. And at this scale, that would be a lot of money.

Also, if there is no economy, there wouldn't be much of an army. Weapons would be made by individuals, not weapons companies. ;)

I think you guys might be thinking of the Curse, the mercs from the Outworld, poorly equipped, untrained, pretty much useless.

Also the Outworlds in general probably don't have a stable (or existent) economic system, but the UTC does, I'd almost garuntee it.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:15 am ]
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Yeah, Outworld colonies most likly don't have money i think or much of it. While the untouched parts of human worlds are still strong and economically sound. Thats what i think.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:30 am ]
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The war of PA, stays mostly very far away from the ""clean" Earth.. The heavily industrialised Outworld, is where the bad stuff happens.. People that inhabit these planets, are not well off.. poor, desperate, workers.. Economy will probably be around, but that aint a focus ;)

Terran Soldiers will indeed have some awesome suit, etc.. For diffirent scenarios, comes diffirent outfits.. Anti-Krao for example, will invole heavily armoured suits for getting right in there, and many melee weapons, ammo belts, semi-automatic belt-fed shotguns, miniguns, chainsaws, the works!! Skrith operate diffirently, and as such, require diffirent tactics..

The war torn planets wont look clean like o'l city 17.. More like eleborate industrial stuctures, spanning many miles.. Space battles will occasionally occur, but fighting is mainly confined to ground battles, as far as our plans go :)

The Curse is also a huge factor.. an massive mercenary empire, who hire themselves out to anyone, be it Human or Skrith.. They are in it for nothing more than wealth.. Curse fighters are terrible and desperate.. barely trained and used in ways more like Krao than any other warrior... The Curse bosses hwever, have become super-rich... :)
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:23 am ]
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Wonderful to know SB.
Author:  Bjossi [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:44 am ]
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Captain Xavious wrote:
Also, if there is no economy, there wouldn't be much of an army. Weapons would be made by individuals, not weapons companies. ;)


That actually may not be the case. The reason money exists in the first place is the greediness of humans, other races may be putting forward teams to develop weapons just for the sake of survival rather than profit.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:59 am ]
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Wouldn't that be an awesome universe.
Author:  UndeadRoadkill [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:11 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
Captain Xavious wrote:
Also, if there is no economy, there wouldn't be much of an army. Weapons would be made by individuals, not weapons companies. ;)


That actually may not be the case. The reason money exists in the first place is the greediness of humans, other races may be putting forward teams to develop weapons just for the sake of survival rather than profit.


Not all economies are based on currency. There should be lots going on economically during a war. Some folks need weapons, some need rations, etc. etc. Imagine the trade and bartering.
Author:  Bjossi [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:16 pm ]
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That is the case for humans, but not all races have to be greedy for profits in one form or another. Some people of a certain race help with a war just to help their race to survive instead of making profits.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:50 pm ]
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Thats the best way a war should be waged.
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:42 am ]
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The best ways are not often the actual ways.

Plus, for the most part, we are talking about humans anyways.

Also, reading over SB's post, seems I have interpreted it spot on. Cool. 8)

But mainly, rather than economics, I'm kinda more interested in what some of the equipment would be for the Curse. Being as they are equipped with what ever they can get their hands on, it could make for some interesting characters.

SB, will you guys ever go a little more in depth with the Curse forces, i.e. make some possible equipment they might use, sometime down the road?

Methinks it'd be pretty cool playing as a Curse merc. While having a low life expectancy, it could make for some deep story lines, an extremely challenging set of missions, and would just be plain cool to see.
Author:  Bjossi [ Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:18 am ]
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The Curse grab whatever they find? Wouldn't you just love if they'd manage to infiltrate a human military outpost? !mistrust
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