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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
since we install BW2.1 on our server - we have strong problems with it: very laggy - sometimes can´t see explosions - and handling of ini is confusing - the user dosent notice the differences between the old and new version. were is a documentation about the new 2.1 ballistic ini ? what is the right way to handle the ut2004.ini ? ServerPackages=xxxxV2 and the ServerPackages=xxxxV21 or only the new one? - we like BW - so we want to have a good running system 
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Only v21 packages should be on the .ini, unless you want to use some of the v2.0 version's weapons, if you don't like the tweaks. |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
ok - we have run the server with only V21 - but the same problems. we wonder - 2.0 runs well and now....it´s a pity. looking forward to a fix for the patch
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
I don't know if this can be fixed with a patch, because the other servers don't have this problem, that we know of. |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
yes - thats right. but in this forum is a bug thread - i think therefor is a fix needed. or not? what can be the reason for big lags? we have allready install the 2.0 - just copy over the 2.1 and change the serverPackages to V21. - there must be a misttake - maybe on our side - because we think, the 2.1 is a step back (for handling, performance and gameplay). i am sorry about that. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
You'll need to be more specific. When does the lag happen? What are you doing when it happens? Can you also describe the lag? What happens during the lag? Also, does it happen to individual players in Instant action, or only when playing your server? Have you tried playing in other Ballistic servers to see the lag happens there as well? |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
ok i´ll try. first - we have the lags only in 2.1 and online - instant action it is running well. it happends: sometimes when you see an opponent, sometimes when it starts a fight, sometimes at explosions, or just at walking arround. happens during: complete still standing computer at all players at the server or sometimes one player see nothing sametime other player hear nothing. eplosions kill´s but not all player see why. running - lag - next screen red or running - eplosion - running - after 2 sec - dead.
its hard to frag by shooting, because it´s feeling like every player had a 500 ping
we dont try a other online server - but we will this night. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
I remember having issues like this myself in 2.0. I think I fixed it by adding the Ballistic packages to my own UT2004.ini. I dunno if that really worked though. I also upgraded my RAM since then. |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
all users at our clan have enough ram - my pc has 2gb
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Any progress on this? |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
we tested it at LAN - this works well. our group decide to use the 2.0 at online playing. we can not handle the lags with the 2.1 and anyway we dislike the new mine´s and the jump controlle. but thanks for your support. |
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| Author: | Wup [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
How bout Posting your: ServerPackages Lines Your IPDrv Section (Netspeed, ServerTick) Server Specs And ISP Specs |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
at the time, we testing online - the settings: . . . . ServerPackages=BallisticV21 ServerPackages=BCoreV21 ServerPackages=BWBPOneV21 ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV21 ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV21 ServerPackages=BallisticVehicles ServerPackages=JunkWarV21 ServerPackages=EliteMachines_X MaxClientRate=20000 MaxInternetClientRate=20000 NetServerMaxTickRate=40 LanServerMaxTickRate=40 Server Specs and ISP Specs i dont know exactly - it is a rented system in germanys top server location. minimum a dualcore 2x3,0 Pentium with min. 2048GB Ram. |
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| Author: | Wup [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
KBR-Kasi wrote: at the time, we testing online - the settings:
. . . . ServerPackages=BallisticV21 ServerPackages=BCoreV21 ServerPackages=BWBPOneV21 ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV21 ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV21 ServerPackages=BallisticVehicles ServerPackages=JunkWarV21 ServerPackages=EliteMachines_X MaxClientRate=20000 MaxInternetClientRate=20000 NetServerMaxTickRate=40 LanServerMaxTickRate=40 Server Specs and ISP Specs i dont know exactly - it is a rented system in germanys top server location. minimum a dualcore 2x3,0 Pentium with min. 2048GB Ram. Ok Lets tweak this 20000 Max Client rate is too high change it to 10000 (Change Both) Tickrate to 30 (Change Both) Try those and get back to me. Your server looks like it is sending wayy too much information Epic recommends anywhere from 5500 - 10000 for the Netspeed. Tickrate Will bring a server to its knees especially if you share the server with other ut servers (which im sure you do) unless your renting a dedicated box. |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
this settings wasnt very good - extrreme lags. shooting, sound and way distance are not synchronous. |
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| Author: | Wup [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Ok go lower..Try Client Speed 6500 Tick 25 |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
i am sorry, but we try 10000 and tickrate 50 and it works much better than the lower tickrate. i dont know why. with the 10000/50 it runs with very little lag at the beginning vom the match - its ok. our next step is to clean the server and make a complete fresh new installation - then is give you reply. |
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| Author: | Wup [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
What Gametype are you running? |
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| Author: | Tha Kapn [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Try to ping the server to see if you're losing packets. If its not yours and the server basically equates to a mid-range system... except IN GERMANY! It is probably just that you're lagging due to it being so far away perhaps? http://just-ping.com/ That'll help you test the server in germany btw. I know that from my location I lose an average of 10% to Germany, even though all other countries are generally 100%. location result min. rrt avg. rrt max. rrt Santa Clara, U.S.A. Okay 103.0 127.4 167.3 Vancouver, Canada Okay 57.4 70.7 95.4 Florida, U.S.A. Okay 177.8 203.8 243.5 New York, U.S.A. Okay 154.9 184.2 223.6 Austin, U.S.A. Okay 128.7 154.7 176.8 Amsterdam1, Netherlands Okay 234.7 254.8 276.3 Austin, U.S.A. Okay 160.6 189.5 224.6 Hong Kong, China Okay 225.5 260.5 296.6 Amsterdam, Netherlands Okay 255.1 290.7 330.1 Sydney, Australia Okay 253.0 286.6 319.8 Stockholm, Sweden Okay 257.8 289.7 319.1 London, United Kingdom Okay 224.7 263.4 299.8 Kraków, Poland Okay 237.5 261.0 283.6 Cologne, Germany Okay 234.4 267.9 300.4 Madrid, Spain Okay 273.2 307.9 340.9 Cagliari, Italy Okay 261.1 296.3 323.8 Amsterdam3, Netherlands Okay 238.5 265.0 287.5 Paris, France Okay 213.7 247.3 269.3 Copenhagen, Denmark Okay 205.4 242.3 264.8 Singapore, Singapore Okay 359.4 412.5 464.7 Melbourne, Australia Okay 267.8 290.3 307.2 Munchen, Germany Packets lost (10%) 256.3 289.3 323.6 Shanghai, China Okay 268.8 308.9 345.7 Hope that helps btw. 
If you can spare it, get a friend to load it on a box and run it via LAN. If it runs fine, then it would be your internet connection. If you want me to run some tests on the server you can PM me the IP. I have a ton of tools to help you out (I work as a computer technican). 
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
most of the time, we are running bw arena. i check our ut server IP: 85.131.188.22 with "just ping" and it is ok Santa Clara, U.S.A. Okay 159.2 160.8 166.6 Florida, U.S.A. Okay 138.1 139.6 140.8 Amsterdam1, Netherlands Okay 9.4 13.0 23.4 Vancouver, Canada Okay 165.0 165.9 166.9 Austin, U.S.A. Okay 131.7 131.9 132.1 Stockholm, Sweden Okay 30.1 30.3 30.4 New York, U.S.A. Okay 92.6 93.5 94.0 Amsterdam, Netherlands Okay 9.1 13.3 23.3 Austin, U.S.A. Okay 131.4 131.7 132.2 London, United Kingdom Okay 19.4 20.1 20.9 Hong Kong, China Okay 313.0 325.0 329.5 Cologne, Germany Okay 3.7 4.0 4.1 Kraków, Poland Okay 33.2 33.5 33.7 Munchen, Germany Okay 7.4 7.7 8.4 Amsterdam3, Netherlands Okay 8.3 8.5 8.7 Madrid, Spain Okay 27.5 28.0 28.9 Sydney, Australia Okay 320.5 320.9 322.6 Paris, France Okay 10.4 10.7 10.9 Cagliari, Italy Okay 41.3 41.9 42.9 Copenhagen, Denmark Okay 15.5 15.8 16.0 Melbourne, Australia Okay 332.5 334.2 335.5 Singapore, Singapore Okay 390.8 395.3 405.8 Shanghai, China Okay 848.6 853.8 858.7 |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
"Okay" only means you're not losing any packets or anything. Those are some impressive numbers for Europe, by the way. |
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| Author: | KBR-Kasi [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
do you mean impressively good or bad? when this is the ping - this are good value in germany and europe is ok too. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
I'm gonna have to check out your server some time. |
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| Author: | Tha Kapn [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
KBR-Kasi: You dint do that quite right. You're pinging the server, so of course its connection to germany would be great. Unfortunately you're trying to connect to Germany. So retry with your own IP. If you dont know it, ask any admin here, these PHP forums log user IPs. So, if you ping yourself FROM Germany then you know the connection between you and Germany kinda sucks. (Again, you were pinging Germany-Germany there, hence the impressive Europe pings) I appologise if I wasnt clear. My mistake. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Kasi is German. He should have no problems connecting to a server based in Germany. |
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| Author: | Tha Kapn [ Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Huh, you're right... I'd rule a bum server but if it plays 2.0 fine I dont know. Bad sector on the HD, or crap ram? (although that would usually just crap the game) No way of knowing unfortunately. I hope its just a wrong setting. |
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| Author: | andriel [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
Ever figure this out? My new server has some lag issues I didn't experience before. I was hoping to find a fix. |
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| Author: | Wup [ Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | BW2.1 Problems and Lags |
I still get it at the beginning of each round when the BW weapons fill the Weapon lockers..I'm running 2.0 with the 2.1 weapons. |
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