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Author:  thedutchjelle [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Hello,

I've got Ballistic weapons all working fine, v21 + bwp4 + kelly's pack and all that on my own computer. But I wanted to install it on 2 other iMacs (not windows) to play it in a LAN.

I run the Ut4mod with UmodOut, a application in the Santa Toolpack.

So it sees the first v200 weapon and properly adds them. However, the v21 weapons, the bonuspack and kelly's pack are not in the swapping menu.
After a bit of searching I found them in the load-out swapping menu, where they were on the bottom of the list, as 'non-ballistic weapons'

I'm a bit clueless as to what I've do to restore this.

I've installed the on the UT2004 application (Show Package contents), not in the Application Support/Ut2k4. I did it in this order:
UT2004 + latest patches
Ballistic Weapons v200
Ballistic v21
Ballistic bonus pack 4
Kellys weapons pack

Only the first install seems to be properly added. Anyone knows how to fix it?

Edit: I'm now going to attempt all the files I can find of Ballistic and then add them with the ZIP version. Maybe it makes a difference. I'll let you know if it worked. (Though feel free to post other suggestions)

Author:  Blade sword [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

The kelly's pack are always added with the other BW weapons with the other original BW weapons, the kaboodles weapons as well the only non BW weapons that appear on that list are the weapons from other mods that doesn't use the BW system files

Do you have for example the coach gun ?

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

You could try to force your Ballistic configuration to do a full reset by deleting the BWCache.ini, BallisticV2.ini and BallisticV21.ini files in your UT2004/System folder.

Author:  thedutchjelle [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Hello again,

It now properly works, as in, he (=my brother on a 'new' computer) can see all the weapons. I think I accidently made a mistake when installing, as I just did a fresh install and it seemed to work this time around.

But there is a new problem, he can only use one or two weapons with load-out , even though he can select them all, and his GUI doesn't work. He joined one of my (=old computer) LAN games (added serverpackages to UT2004.ini on my computer). We played with Load-Out enabled. When he was in my game, he could pick all the weapons from the pop-up, but when respawning, the weapons he picked were not distributed properly.

I'm hosting with the computer that already worked perfectly (mine), and when I host a LAN for one of the new computers, I can switch my Load-Out ingame, but it then also updates immediately. I don't think this is supposed to happen.

So a short list of current situation:
-'new' computers can now see all weapons.
-New computers can join a LAN game with my computer
-New computers can't use the GUI properly Fixed
-New computers can select all weapons in the load-out popup, but when respawning, doesn't get it properly (sometimes all, most of the times just one, and some weapons refuse to work)
-My computer, when in LAN, updates my current load-out when i switch when I'm still alive, instead of waiting for respawn.

I hope I provided you with enough information. If any of you knows how to fix this, I would be most grateful :)

EDIT:
By tinkering with the settings, I made it work for him on offline games. We're now going to retry LAN game, I'll post here again if it's fixed.

Edit 2:
We just tested another LAN match, without Load-Out this time (so weapons were just on the ground). His first life, when he fresh entered the server, he could pick up all weapons and use them all. GUI works as well. But when he died, he could not pick up weapons anymore. He was stuck with knife/melee weapon.
When he was playing offline, the game behaves perfectly. He can pick up weapons, die, still pick up weapons, select guns in load-out and actually get them etc.

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Do you have ALL the serverpackages updated? That's usually the issue I have with LAN games. It makes certain guns unusable and generally screws things up.

Author:  thedutchjelle [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Sgt. Kelly wrote:
Do you have ALL the serverpackages updated? That's usually the issue I have with LAN games. It makes certain guns unusable and generally screws things up.


I'm not sure. Does he needs them as well, or does only the hosting computer need the serverpackages?
Code:
[Engine.GameEngine]
CacheSizeMegs=32
UseSound=True
VoIPAllowVAD=False
ServerActors=IpDrv.MasterServerUplink
ServerActors=UWeb.WebServer
ServerPackages=Core
ServerPackages=Engine
ServerPackages=Fire
ServerPackages=Editor
ServerPackages=IpDrv
ServerPackages=UWeb
ServerPackages=GamePlay
ServerPackages=UnrealGame
ServerPackages=XEffects
ServerPackages=XPickups
ServerPackages=XGame
ServerPackages=XWeapons
ServerPackages=XInterface
ServerPackages=Vehicles
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2003
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2004
ServerPackages=BonusPack
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack_rc
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack
ServerPackages=UTClassic
ServerPackages=UT2k4Assault
ServerPackages=Onslaught
ServerPackages=GUI2K4
ServerPackages=UT2k4AssaultFull
ServerPackages=OnslaughtFull
ServerPackages=xVoting
ServerPackages=BallisticV2
ServerPackages=BCoreV2
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV2
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV2
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV2

Is what I put in the ut2004.ini file in the UT2004 application. I'm not sure if I also have to change the ut2004.ini in the Application SUpport/Ut2k4/system directory, as I think the .ini directly in the Ut2004 application has a higher priority.

Update:
I found this list of packages somewhere on this forum. Installed it on both my and the other computer. Still no improvements.
Code:
[Engine.GameEngine]
CacheSizeMegs=32
UseSound=True
VoIPAllowVAD=False
ServerActors=IpDrv.MasterServerUplink
ServerActors=UWeb.WebServer
ServerPackages=Core
ServerPackages=Engine
ServerPackages=Fire
ServerPackages=Editor
ServerPackages=IpDrv
ServerPackages=UWeb
ServerPackages=GamePlay
ServerPackages=UnrealGame
ServerPackages=XEffects
ServerPackages=XPickups
ServerPackages=XGame
ServerPackages=XWeapons
ServerPackages=XInterface
ServerPackages=Vehicles
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2003
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2004
ServerPackages=BonusPack
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack_rc
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack
ServerPackages=UTClassic
ServerPackages=UT2k4Assault
ServerPackages=Onslaught
ServerPackages=GUI2K4
ServerPackages=UT2k4AssaultFull
ServerPackages=OnslaughtFull
ServerPackages=xVoting
ServerPackages=BallisticV2
ServerPackages=BallisticV21
ServerPackages=BallisticVehicles
ServerPackages=BCore
ServerPackages=BCoreV2
ServerPackages=BCoreV21
ServerPackages=BEVehicles
ServerPackages=BEVehiclesV13
ServerPackages=BEVehiclesV14
ServerPackages=BWBP4Vehicles
ServerPackages=BWBPFour
ServerPackages=BWBPFourB
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV2
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV21
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV2
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV21
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV2
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV21
ServerPackages=Infestation
ServerPackages=JunkWar
ServerPackages=JunkWarV2
ServerPackages=JunkWarV21
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors2
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors3
UseStaticMeshBatching=True
ColorHighDetailMeshes=False
ColorSlowCollisionMeshes=False
ColorNoCollisionMeshes=False
ColorWorldTextures=False
ColorPlayerAndWeaponTextures=False
ColorInterfaceTextures=False
MainMenuClass=GUI2K4.UT2K4MainMenu
ConnectingMenuClass=GUI2K4.UT2K4ServerLoading
DisconnectMenuClass=GUI2K4.UT2K4DisconnectOptionPage
LoadingClass=GUI2K4.UT2K4SP_LadderLoading
SinglePlayerMenuClass=GUI2K4.UT2K4SP_Main

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Hmm, this sounds like a version mismatch error. Do all of the servers have the complete install with all the guns?

Also, are any of the guns acting up more than the others?

Author:  Captain Xavious [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Remove BCore, BCorev2, Ballisticv2, and put it so BCorev21 is in the list before all the other server packages. It is order sensitive for these things.

Author:  thedutchjelle [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Aight, I did that and now I got this:
Code:
ServerPackages=BCoreV21
ServerPackages=Core
ServerPackages=Engine
ServerPackages=Fire
ServerPackages=Editor
ServerPackages=IpDrv
ServerPackages=UWeb
ServerPackages=GamePlay
ServerPackages=UnrealGame
ServerPackages=XEffects
ServerPackages=XPickups
ServerPackages=XGame
ServerPackages=XWeapons
ServerPackages=XInterface
ServerPackages=Vehicles
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2003
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2004
ServerPackages=BonusPack
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack_rc
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack
ServerPackages=UTClassic
ServerPackages=UT2k4Assault
ServerPackages=Onslaught
ServerPackages=GUI2K4
ServerPackages=UT2k4AssaultFull
ServerPackages=OnslaughtFull
ServerPackages=xVoting
ServerPackages=BallisticV21
ServerPackages=BallisticVehicles
ServerPackages=BEVehicles
ServerPackages=BEVehiclesV13
ServerPackages=BEVehiclesV14
ServerPackages=BWBP4Vehicles
ServerPackages=BWBPFour
ServerPackages=BWBPFourB
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV2
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV21
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV2
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV21
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV2
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV21
ServerPackages=Infestation
ServerPackages=JunkWar
ServerPackages=JunkWarV2
ServerPackages=JunkWarV21
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors2
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors3


I'm wondering if the BWBPRecolors is correct?
Edit: I tried running the game without the first 2 Recolors. No difference.

Anyway, I did some testing on my own this time, by putting the two monitors of the computers running it next to each other and watching what each player could see and not. The weapons from Kelly's pack didn't show up on the New computer, but did on mine. The Ranger Rifle did show up, but when picked up was not chose able. Same with the landmines.
On this New Computer, the game runs without flaws single player, even with Kelly's weapons.

I think we can therefore safely say the problem lies with a version mismatch or a wrong serverpackages list.

So I would like to put forward these questions:
Do the computers who join me have to have the serverpackages, or only the server-computer (mine)?
Can I remove the Junkwar packages if I'm not running the Junkwar mod?
Are there any abundant serverpackages in my list that need to be removed as well?

Thanks for helping me so far :) I hope this problem is fixable .

Author:  Captain Xavious [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Ok, for starters, BCorev21 is too high on list. Mutator/Mod server packages never go before the Core Game packages, so move BCorev21 to just before Ballisticv21 package, and yes, you can remove the Junkwars ones. As for BWBPRecolors, I don't even think you should have 3 unless you're a beta tester, so that one can probably be removed, and the first one oughta be removed since its outdated, so just leave BWBPRecolors2 in place.

Try this for ServerPackages:

Code:
ServerPackages=Core
ServerPackages=Engine
ServerPackages=Fire
ServerPackages=Editor
ServerPackages=IpDrv
ServerPackages=UWeb
ServerPackages=GamePlay
ServerPackages=UnrealGame
ServerPackages=XEffects
ServerPackages=XPickups
ServerPackages=XGame
ServerPackages=XWeapons
ServerPackages=XInterface
ServerPackages=Vehicles
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2003
ServerPackages=TeamSymbols_UT2004
ServerPackages=BonusPack
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack_rc
ServerPackages=SkaarjPack
ServerPackages=UTClassic
ServerPackages=UT2k4Assault
ServerPackages=Onslaught
ServerPackages=GUI2K4
ServerPackages=UT2k4AssaultFull
ServerPackages=OnslaughtFull
ServerPackages=xVoting
ServerPackages=BCorev21
ServerPackages=BallisticV21
ServerPackages=BWBPOneV21
ServerPackages=BWBPTwoV21
ServerPackages=BWBPThreeV21
ServerPackages=BWBPFour
ServerPackages=BWBPFourB
ServerPackages=BallisticVehicles
ServerPackages=BEVehiclesV14
ServerPackages=BWBP4Vehicles
ServerPackages=BWBPRecolors2
ServerPackages=Infestation


Also, make sure you don't have both the new and older version of Sgt. Kelly's pack, that can make things more confusing than anything, easiest way to uninstall is to just remove the BWBPRecolors.u file from your system file, then delete your BWCache.ini (don't worry, it will be recreated when you restart UT2004). There will still be other files left from Sgt. Kelly's original pack release, but they won't mess with things at all.

Also, out of curiosity, whats that Infestation file from?

Author:  thedutchjelle [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons added as 'non-ballistic weapon', need some help

Thanks for the reply, I'll try that list.

I added that one package that high up because I thought you said I had to place it above all others.

I used this thread as reference when adding stuff to the packages list:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=75231
The infestion serverpackage was one of the Packages kelly listed.

The Sgt. Kelly pack - I check this old computer, and I only see the BwbpRecolors2.u files, no bwbprecolors.u to be found, so I'm guessing that that installation went properly.
Edit: I tried this new list and results are still zero :(
Edit II: removing Infestation has no effect.
Edit III: I decided to check the Ut2k4/System directory in the Library/Application Support directory and compare it with the System directory that's directly inside the UT2k4 application. I'm seeing some files double.. Would it be wise to delete those?
The files are: BallisticV21.u, BWBP4.int,BWBP4vehicles.u, BWBPvehicles.ucl, BWBPfour.u, BWBPfour.ucl, BWBPfourb.u,BWBPfourb.ucl.


I'm not sure if it matters or not, but this old computer has more maps and mutators installed than the new one, but I never turn those on during playtesting or hosting. Only Ballistic Deathmatch on 1on1 Albatross and 1on1 Crash. No different models or anything.

I think I'm going to check thoroughly if Kelly's pack is properly installed on this new machine - It runs without problems but maybe there's indeed some old file still lingering.

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