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Author:  Astaldo711 [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  New weapons not appearing
I have BW 2.1 Gold plus the Sgt. Kelly's addon. The normal weapons and effect all show fine but I can't get the ones from Sgt. Kelly's addon to sppear. I go to the weapon swap tab and just use "fill" to select all the new weapons for the original. I save it and begin a game but only the regular BW weapons appear, not the ones from Sgt. Kelly's addon. I'm using Windows 7 so that may be the culprit as I never had a problem with this on my old WinXP computer.
Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
Naw, Windows 7 shouldn't be the culprit. I designed the guns on a Windows 7 platform. :)

You might be missing the Runestorm Ballistic Bonus Packs though. There are four official ones out there that the unofficial ones require to operate. Do you have those installed?
Author:  Bjossi [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
BWBP4 is often overlooked since it is not included in BW2.0+2.1.
Author:  Astaldo711 [ Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
I have BW4. At least it has a bunch of files about it in the help folder. I'm going to download and install them again to make sure.

Well, I downloaded the umod versions of BW 2.0, 2.1, BWP4, and Sgt Kelly's mod. I tried to install but was informed I needed patch 3369. I don't know why because I was playing yesterday. At any rate, I installed 3369, BW 2.0, 2.1 BWP 4 and Sgt Kelly's mod. I also have Map Mixer installed. I set it up the way I have before and only the weapons from 2.0 and 2.1 show. I went to the "Swapping" tabbed and basically replaced all the original UT2004 weapons with the new ones. The new weapons are in the list of weapons I can replace with. The main problem I can see is that when I set up the swap list, it isn't saving. I make all the changes, play a game with the default BW weapons, and when I exit and check the swap list, nothing is checked any longer.. It's frustrating because it worked on my previous computer. BW is the only reason I play UT2004 and my 10 year old daughter also loves it!
Author:  Bjossi [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
I have never gotten the swapper to work right myself, you just have to live with it since Runestorm decided to leave the dinner table with their plates still half-full. What works best for me is to avoid the preset options altogether, you could write them manually in the ini file but that would be a royal pain in the ass even if you knew your way around that system. Occasionally I would run into a bug where as soon as I click a UT2 weapon in the swapper list, the weapon you configured earlier will not remember its settings, and also BW weapons tend to get flagged in the wrong UT2 weapon item. Thankfully these have been rare for me.

As for the installation, I really have no idea what may be wrong here. If I remember correctly BWBP4 came before BW 2.1 so installing it in 'BW2.0 -> BWBP4 -> BW2.1 -> Sarge' order may work (after a clean uninstall of these mods first of course), but if not then I suggest trying a clean reinstall of the game itself and apply patch 3369 before anything else. With UT2 and its incredible amount of custom content come messy installations that could make mods conflict all over the place as well as making the game unstable in general. In my latest (lasting several years actually) installation I try to keep custom stuff to a minimum and delete whatever I have stopped bothering with. Even that approach isn't perfect but it sure beats allowing the game folder to become bigger than Windows 7 itself.
Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
I'd also recommend using the 'Reloaded' cheat at least once to see if the weapons are functioning in game. That code will give the player all the Ballistic Weapons currently installed.

The only other option I can suggest would be to delete BWCache.ini and BallisticV21.ini to try and purge the settings. Hope this helps.
Author:  Astaldo711 [ Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
Yeah, I used the "reloaded" cheat and all weapons were there, including bonus and Sarge's. I've tried deleting the bwcache.ini and it didn't help. I'll delete the Balisitic ini as well and see if that helps. Uninstalling the games is last resort as I have over 200 maps for CTF alone and I'd hate to have to download them again.
Author:  Bjossi [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
Do you actually play all of them from time to time? You do not need to redownload them anyway, just back up what you want to keep.
Author:  Astaldo711 [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
I may just do that. Luckily Unrealplayground is still up so I'll just download the maps and put those and the BW files onto a CD.
Author:  Grizzlykiller [ Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
if you havnt already back them up and back up your sounds and textures, then install ballistic weapons wihout the maps, if it works then install the maps and see what happens respond back and tell me what happened

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Author:  Braethias [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
Another swapper not working? I mentioned in another thread that installing UT to program files will keep your swapper from working properly all the time. At least, that's my theory. Try moving it out of C: drive? Running as Admin can't hurt either.
Author:  Bjossi [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
I don't install any games or programs to the C: drive, let alone Program Files. The problem has nothing to do with write permissions anyway, it is a bug(s) with BW.
Author:  Braethias [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
Well, that's what the process is for, yo. Plus I didn't want to say that.

But it's still true! Can't write to a read only file. I had the same problem on the machine with 7 on it and once I took it out of the Program files and slapped it on the desktop it worked for me, but... I guess I'm just special. ;D
Author:  Bjossi [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: New weapons not appearing
The desktop is not strictly write protected but it is a very strange place to put a game's core in. If you want to be tidy and consistent just install all games into C:\Games. Short path, straight forward.

I have never had an ini file turn read-only all by itself. It is however worth noting that WinVista/7's (irritating as hell) UAC security layer has the tendency to forbid software from writing data to files, and not just ini files for that matter. This goes for software that writes to their local folder (like UT2004), rather than in the Users region (like UT3). Since I intend to actually use my computer I ended up disabling UAC completely. All permission problems solved with the flip of a switch, and I get to keep my hair as a bonus, yay.
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