?? no idea what your saying
is it about RPG's?
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| Author: | Deuxhero [ Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Really these "untrained peasants" that somehow wind up saveing the world almost always use a sword (and most of the time when they can use another weapon A: they can also use swords B:The game has no swords in it C:you can pick what weapon type too use) an untrained idiot would be far better off with Spears (easy to learn and make) Axes (these nuby peasant children likely one for removeing trees) or maces/flails (both weapons used by peasants called into battle, and the flail was based on a farming tool) |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
?? no idea what your saying is it about RPG's?
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| Author: | Deuxhero [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
I'm asking how and why every single random person chosen to save the world in video games ALWAYs uses a sword (if they have a choise of there weapon one will be swords or there will be no swords in the game) dispite the work required to learn the "art of the sword" they are somehow able to hack there way threw the villans armys without any formal training in the weapon, it also brings in too question why they don't use Flails Spears or Axes, all of them would require far less training to use right |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Swords are lame, why not make the job easy and use a ranged weapon? These so-called "heroes" need to put a little logic into their choice of weapons. But to be honest I haven't noticed any game that has swords, at least on in the FPS genre. But they are probably common in RPGs and adventure games. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
I like swords... Besides, you don't need to know any "art of swords" to hack away at something. Its very similar to the reason why they'd be able to use an axe to hack at stuff. Besides, if you weren't trained in using either weapon, it'd probably be easier to hit with a sword in most cases, simply because there's more area to hit them with. Of course, you'd still be better off using an axe untrained than a sword, only because the axe has more weight to it focused on the cutting part, and it wouldn't dull as quick. But if you want to be able to block other peoples' attacks with a weapon, you're gonna need training, regardless of the weapon, other than possibly a shield (which would still require some training to use correctly). Of course, spears and pikes would be the most believeable weapon for a peasant, considering thats what the peasants typically used when they had to defend their castle. Maces/clubs would be another great choice for them, due to the simplicity of just smashing stuff. 
Crossbows were also used by defending villagers frequently, too. I'm not too sure about the flails, though... They wouldn't exactly be the simplest weapon to use, at least, I don't think so, but then again, I don't have one, so I'm not really sure. I'll have to try it some time... But, let us not forget that most of these games are fantasy, after all. 
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Bjossi wrote: Swords are lame, why not make the job easy and use a ranged weapon? These so-called "heroes" need to put a little logic into their choice of weapons.
But to be honest I haven't noticed any game that has swords, at least on in the FPS genre. But they are probably common in RPGs and adventure games. Dark Messiah Might and Magic has a really good sword combat system even though its an FPS/RPG. |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
you know what.. fighting these days is done by filthy politicians, and lawyers!! *shudders* i like swords too they're interesting, but u cant save the world with only a sword.. be sensible and take a gun or 2, and a sword!! or my favourite, go MATRIX style  *guns.. lots of guns* (one of my favourite quotes)
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| Author: | DarkCarnivour [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
A sword is a great melee weapon, especially if you'r opponent is armed with an axe, spear, mace, flail, pike, knife, etc... It doesn't run out of ammo and is simpler to use than a crossbow or bow, neither of which work very well in melee comat. Course a 30mm minigun and thermonuclear missile make good weapons too, but they're beyond the scope of this...
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| Author: | Deuxhero [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
You seem to forget that the effetivnesss of the weapon is not in question here, it's the amount of time it takes too learn how too use it |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
DarkCarnivour wrote: A sword is a great melee weapon, especially if you'r opponent is armed with an axe, spear, mace, flail, pike, knife, etc... It doesn't run out of ammo and is simpler to use than a crossbow or bow, neither of which work very well in melee comat.
but the blade does start to dull after all the monkey slicing. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Deuxhero wrote: You seem to forget that the effetivnesss of the weapon is not in question here, it's the amount of time it takes to learn how to use it
But it doesn't take much time to learn how to hack people up with one. I learned how to hack things up with my machete in a matter of minutes.
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
amazing, xavious. Deuxhero, have you ever heard of Open-ended RPGs? I have seen plenty of archer heroes there. Plus, swords are probably the best beginner weapon out there. If you see fencing, those what ever hacha asian sword martial arts, or even a movie, POOF, you suddenly get a quick concept of what you should do if a mafia dude's runnin at you with brass knuckles and you got a sword you picked up from the dumpster! I only use toy swords right now, though, but they give painful whacks. By the way, Oblivion has a really good weapons system too, and all those two-handed hammers give a good whack. However, that does not beat the thrill of lashing out 360 degree spins while using a katana at a journeyman expertise. GOD! I SOUND LIKE A GEEK! |
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| Author: | Deuxhero [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Deuxhero wrote: C:you can pick what weapon type too use)
I mentioned that |
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Uh, what are we talking about here...? If it's about Japanese Console RPGs, well... a sword-totting hero is pretty much cliché... Call it psychoanalysis, but Japan has always had the notion that wielding swords is very heroic (much more if the sword happens to be a Katana), and using Black-Magic is very evil (hence the RPG Villain cliché). Here's a fact about Japanese Console RPGs: The angst of the main character is directly-proportional to the size of his sword. Here's a bit of info about Western and Eastern RPGs. ALSO: The Grand List of Console RPG Clichés Wikipedia entry on RPG Clichés |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Japan dudes would think their character is a hero when s/he gets a .50 through the sword and into the neck.
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
They'd call it a "Good Death" even... But nevertheless, Japanese-based CRPGs have heroes that are so God-like, they can cut bullets in mid-flight with their swords... Silly, I know... but what can I do about it? |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
I can't stand katanas... they're too flimsy... the only thing that makes them powerful is the incredible amount of training that goes into using them... |
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Well... there's always the Zweihander, the big, bad mack-daddy of all swords... but then you turn into a spiky-haired emo-kid when you wield it... |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Uh... never heard of it... when you want a big sword, you want to go with the Scottish Claymore. There has been recordings of armored corpses that have been cleaved through the armor and down to the belly button, with a claymore usually found nearby. |
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
A Claymore is a Zweihander... Zweihander means "Two-Hander" (meaning a sword that requires the use of both hands to wield). |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
I never knew that... what language is that in? |
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
It's German... also Claymore is derived from a Scottish Gaelic word which also means the same thing: "Two-hander" Check the links I editted in. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
That makes sense. It sounded German, I just never heard a Scottish sword being refered to with a German word.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
German is such a cool language, i hoping to learn a bit of it myself since I'm part German (fathers side) |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Correctly it should be written zweihänder, and means "two-hander" with a raw translation. I know some German but it is very limited. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Yeah, it does sound pretty cool, but I prefer Scottish Gealic. It just sounds so different yet cool at the same time. Plus I'm part Scottish, and a bit German, too. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Go Germans! |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Yeah... go Germans... I guess. 
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
i'm Swedish, and Viking!! those were some ba-ass characters 
and they liked their swords
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why do video games make it so every little nub peasant can use a sword? |
Cool. Swords is always fun.
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