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| Author: | BlackEagle [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:34 am ] |
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On monday night We witnesssed the back of howick up in flames most of the forestry plantations were burned and many farmers and alike lost there homes and fields and forest's... 
It did however not reach the town  but burned most of the farmlands... And is still smoldering now... 
We suspect it was arsen.... 
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| Author: | James [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:14 am ] |
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wow that sucks, glad you guys ok tho. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:23 am ] |
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That sounds bad. What's going to happen as a result? What is going to be done about the loss of farmlands? Seems to me that prices for various stuffs are gonna rise for you guys... |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:07 am ] |
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thats crazy odd, glad you guys are safe. |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:59 am ] |
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It was a bad day.... the damage estimate is around 40 000ha (Hectares). A LOT of farmers are badly affected, lands burnt, houses destroyed, the commercial forestry plantations were also badly hit... 2 firemen also died, 1 of them in an accident, the fire engine crashed whilst going to the fire at a bed and breakfast (guest lodge). the next day it snowed all over the place, which just made things worse for them  (the heaviest snow falls South Africa has had for many years).
It is fire season here at the moment, which is our most dangerous time for fires due to the dryness of our winters.... |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:10 am ] |
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It can snow in South Africa? Wow, i never knew that was possibly. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:21 am ] |
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neither did I |
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:05 am ] |
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If it was arson, I'd wonder why that person did it. Like that Griffith Park fire... was he smoking then he fell asleep or was it something else? Makes me wonder..... |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:26 pm ] |
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Wow... that's bad... |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:24 pm ] |
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If it was arson, the person responsible should have a taste of his/her own medicine. |
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:32 pm ] |
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Yowch, Bjossi, that's not how the modern world works. Been reading a lot of books about torture recently? I don't blame you. My thirst for brutality has hit an all time high ever since I printed the Mortal Kombat Fatality guide  .
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| Author: | Yokelassence [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:53 pm ] |
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I wonder what Arsonists ever hope to achieve by setting things on fire... Every arson brings this planet a little bit closer to ecological disaster, it costs the arsonist himself money in the form of taxes, it doesnt change anyones mind (Especialy not the governments) nobody gets any message at all from the arson, fire goes out of control and attacks the wrong targets easily and the arsonist will never be recognized for it....if they are, 50,000 people will hunt and kill him. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:58 pm ] |
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Why must they burn innocent farms? why I ask. my condolences are given to you guys. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:20 pm ] |
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KylinRage wrote: Yowch, Bjossi, that's not how the modern world works. Been reading a lot of books about torture recently?
I don't need to read books to know that torture is an awesome way to punish. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:24 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: KylinRage wrote: Yowch, Bjossi, that's not how the modern world works. Been reading a lot of books about torture recently? I don't need to read books to know that torture is an awesome way to punish. : / Good thing you don't work for the government. |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:59 am ] |
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I'm glad you're ok, stupid arsonists... |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:02 am ] |
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Mr.UglyPants wrote: It can snow in South Africa? Wow, i never knew that was possibly.
Yes, it snows every year, just not all over..mainly sticks to the high areas! Just this year we've had more than normal! Probably arson, or some fool throwing away a cigarette...although the theroy that a cigarette butt thrown away can start a fire has never been proven...I live in a forestry community (and involved with at work) and they've tried all sorts of secenarios with cigarettes...it just doesn't ignite anything (unless of course you throw petrol/gas on it) naturally!! |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:52 am ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: : /
Good thing you don't work for the government. You think the government doesn't torture? That made my day. |
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| Author: | DK [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:14 am ] |
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cyberax wrote: Probably arson, or some fool throwing away a cigarette...although the theroy that a cigarette butt thrown away can start a fire has never been proven...I live in a forestry community (and involved with at work) and they've tried all sorts of secenarios with cigarettes...it just doesn't ignite anything (unless of course you throw petrol/gas on it) naturally!!
Really now? Mind if I send this out to the Mythbusters? |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:01 am ] |
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DK wrote: Really now? Mind if I send this out to the Mythbusters?
hehehe... only if I get a copy of the episode it features in 
love that show... |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:33 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: Kaboodles wrote: : / Good thing you don't work for the government. You think the government doesn't torture? That made my day. I'd like to think that your everyday, run-of-the-mill criminal bad guy isn't subjected to such ridiculous practices. I mean there's no guarantee you'll get any sort of useful information from torture. People will start saying anything to make the pain stop, even if they know nothing in reality. |
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| Author: | Yokelassence [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:08 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: You think the government doesn't torture? That made my day. Of course! Oh these parking fines are absolute torture! |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:46 pm ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: I mean there's no guarantee you'll get any sort of useful information from torture. People will start saying anything to make the pain stop, even if they know nothing in reality.
It is still more likely that criminals will talk if tortured than if you give them flowers and candy. |
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:54 pm ] |
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Speaking about torture, do they let authorities use the Chinese Water Trap? Mythbusters tested it and it can drive you to the point of complete insanity. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:19 pm ] |
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Well yes, that is probably true, but nowhere did I imply that we should start giving criminals flowers and candy instead of lengthy jail sentences. Even if you get people to talk with torture, it's probable they're not saying anything usable. |
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| Author: | Echo 419 [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:55 pm ] |
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Torture would still be a useful tool since the possibility of someone saying something truthful under pain is greater than the person making up a story under pain. Unless the person actually doesn't know then that just sucks to be him/her. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:27 pm ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: Even if you get people to talk with torture, it's probable they're not saying anything usable.
True, under immense pain you want it to be over as soon as possible, so either you tell the truth, lie, or simply say that you don't know anything. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:41 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: Kaboodles wrote: Even if you get people to talk with torture, it's probable they're not saying anything usable. True, under immense pain you want it to be over as soon as possible, so either you tell the truth, lie, or simply say that you don't know anything. Do you really think the torturer would believe you when you say you don't know anything? You're SOL until you make something up that satisfies them. Torture just plain sucks. It's a shitty way of getting information, especially when other, more reliable options exist. Really, torture just sucks. Especially when you have the wrong man. |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:45 pm ] |
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ok, enough about torture! This topic is about the fires! You can find the articles here: http://blog.ecr.co.za/newswatch/ (look for the "Midlands Fire destroys" and "One weather etxreme to another" articles). They have pics as well... |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:40 pm ] |
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There's a "More dramatic photos" link...? 
Something seems odd about that to me... |
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