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Author:  KylinRage [ Wed May 31, 2006 11:10 pm ]
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Okay, I have good feelings and strange feelings to the next Unreal Tournament game, UT2k7.

Good things first:

Necris vehicles
Hoverboards
Crazy Grafix
Awesome Unreal Warfare.

But none of these can compare to the awkward feeling inside me: Doesn't it sound like UT99?

Reasons:
In UT99 there are the Liandri bots, necris, thundercrash, Skaarj, etc.
In UT2k7 there are the Corrupt, necris, "Jakobs team (maybe like thundercrash)", the Krall, etc.

Now compare:
Corrupt = Liandri Bots
Necris IS Necris
Jakob related to Thundercrash in previous games
Krall is the only not humanlike race in UT2k7 and Skaarj took that place in UT99.
PLUS, a model of a Krall character reminds me of a Skaarj for UT99, except he looks better.

When I heard word of UT2k7, I expected well.... something else.

For example, UT2004 made quite a buzz. I LOVED it because of the HUGE variety of Characters, from Nightmares to Skaarj.

I wish before I lose all free time, Epic will create a UT game where everyone from UT99 to whatever latest Tournament then will take a shot at the trophy, creating a mass of characters to pick and fight. Just like how Rome's Colesseum has blondie germans and gauls and every sort of Roman Empire inhabitant fighting in that pit.
(That would take a lot of space. So maybe EACH race, not character.)

Tell me if I sound like a preaching loser. Thank you. :D
Author:  KylinRage [ Wed May 31, 2006 11:11 pm ]
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By the way, "Blondie" is not a insult to you people with blonde hair. Its how I say blonde.
Author:  cyberax [ Wed May 31, 2006 11:38 pm ]
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Yeah, I agree...

I must also add that I was not very impressed with UT2k4 either. Yes, they did up all the graphics etc. etc. but what I look for in a game is GAMEPLAY, not just a remake with newer graphics that requies a bigger PC. I still like the good old orginal UT and Unreal. There's just something about them that makes playing them enjoyable. I'm not a big fan of the current versions and I'm not looking forward to a newer version that requires heavier hardware :(

The same for other makes in this genre...e.g. the Quake series...Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of id Software, but there's just something lacking in all the new versions...

There's just nothing in all these "new" releases to make me jump and down with excitement and run to the store to buy it...
Author:  KylinRage [ Wed May 31, 2006 11:53 pm ]
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Yes I agree. I loved the rush of the wind and the screams of people in UT99, But although UT2k4 had alot of races, I kept going back to my PS2 and play rounds and rounds of good ol' Unreal Tournament.
Author:  KylinRage [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:14 am ]
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I was thinking about it.... I wished there would be a perfect UT that will support all of our likings.

Bleeding edge graphics
Diverse selections in all fields (characters, weapons, gametypes, maps)
Gameplay that you feel in all the old games... The adrenaline pumped ones, I mean.

That would make a really nice game, if you had all those elements and more.
Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:17 am ]
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I just want a new UT game, not endless amounts of UT99 remakes. I have played that game before and I want new gameplay standards.

If you enjoy UT99, play it then. Let Epic create a sequel that renews your interest in the series instead of creating a retrospect that gets old quickly.
Author:  KylinRage [ Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:35 am ]
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I still like all of them, but I always stop playing the UT series for awhile because it gets kind of repetitive. Now, I don't play UT99 because I got so bored of it. If UT2007 is more than it seems...... Hmm...... Then that would be better.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:05 am ]
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i'm not holding my breath for UT2k7.. only its engine:) it will be nice 2 see what kind of stuff the engine can do.. maybe it will be decent, and maybe not.. but the engine...
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:08 am ]
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it would seem that UT2k7 stole some of our vehicle ideas!! (not actually, but we already thought of those!!) cant wait till we have ours done
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:05 am ]
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But the UT3 vehicles were planned before Ballistic even existed. :P
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:19 pm ]
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I just can't wait for UT2k7... its gonna be so awesome!
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:08 pm ]
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That is just a guess until you actually get to play it. ;)
Author:  James [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:23 pm ]
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KylinRage wrote:
Okay, I have good feelings and strange feelings to the next Unreal Tournament game, UT2k7.

Good things first:

Necris vehicles
Hoverboards
Crazy Grafix
Awesome Unreal Warfare.

But none of these can compare to the awkward feeling inside me: Doesn't it sound like UT99?

Reasons:
In UT99 there are the Liandri bots, necris, thundercrash, Skaarj, etc.
In UT2k7 there are the Corrupt, necris, "Jakobs team (maybe like thundercrash)", the Krall, etc.

Now compare:
Corrupt = Liandri Bots
Necris IS Necris
Jakob related to Thundercrash in previous games
Krall is the only not humanlike race in UT2k7 and Skaarj took that place in UT99.
PLUS, a model of a Krall character reminds me of a Skaarj for UT99, except he looks better.

When I heard word of UT2k7, I expected well.... something else.

For example, UT2004 made quite a buzz. I LOVED it because of the HUGE variety of Characters, from Nightmares to Skaarj.

I wish before I lose all free time, Epic will create a UT game where everyone from UT99 to whatever latest Tournament then will take a shot at the trophy, creating a mass of characters to pick and fight. Just like how Rome's Colesseum has blondie germans and gauls and every sort of Roman Empire inhabitant fighting in that pit.
(That would take a lot of space. So maybe EACH race, not character.)

Tell me if I sound like a preaching loser. Thank you. :D


i would just like to say that ut2004 is one of the shittyist games i have EVER played, no doubt ut2007 will suck ass to (except better graphics so Bjossi wont cry). BUT, BUT, BUT............

ITS NOT THE GAME ITSELF THAT MATTERS! its the mods made from the AWSOME PWNING COOL ASS ENGINE! i will buy ut2007 only for the great mods like BW, Halo UT, KF (i hope), ect.

so stop whining cuz YOU GET TO PLAY BW2007! isnt that enough?????
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:34 pm ]
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James, there is no need to yell. ;)

And you have no idea if UT2007 will suck or not, before making such statements at least play the game. And why would I cry if a game has bad graphics? Most of the games I play are very old...
Author:  James [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:46 pm ]
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are you kidding me? ut2007 will be ut2004 except better graphics and maybe a few more game types i yawn just thinking about it. not to mention most the weapons are the same.

if ut2007 wasn't like the ut series they wouldnt call it ut2007 so......... lol
Author:  Dracone [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:58 pm ]
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I recall you saying you'd take good graphics over gameplay any day.
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:03 pm ]
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James wrote:
are you kidding me? ut2007 will be ut2004 except better graphics and maybe a few more game types i yawn just thinking about it. not to mention most the weapons are the same.

if ut2007 wasn't like the ut series they wouldnt call it ut2007 so......... lol


These are all just assumptions.
Add the words 'I think' before 'ut2007 will be...' and you have a sentence that makes sense. ;)
Author:  James [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:44 pm ]
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Dracone wrote:
I recall you saying you'd take good graphics over gameplay any day.


.......

and i would
Author:  Redshift [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:45 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure UT2007 will be very, very cool right out of the box. And with quality mods like BW it will simply be awesome... So don't worry, be happy, and start saving for a flamin hot PC! :)
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:50 pm ]
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Isn't good gameplay neccesary to enjoy good graphics to the max? Spending $40 just to drool over graphics for 5 minutes is pretty silly.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:11 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
That is just a guess until you actually get to play it. ;)


Yeah but it still looks kick ass cool!
Author:  James [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:32 pm ]
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alot of things look "kick ass cool" but over half of them "suck balls crap".
Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:47 pm ]
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If you want a game that has both amazing graphics and really fun gameplay, Chronicles of Riddick is a name to remember. :)
Author:  KylinRage [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:57 pm ]
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I want the DIVERSITY. That's what I want most. If its a gladitorial combat thing, why not jack in all the races with a kickass compilation?
Author:  James [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:31 pm ]
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i like gunzzzz

you guys should try that BW mod....... forget what BW stands for tho
Author:  KylinRage [ Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:42 pm ]
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James don't be so pessimistic. If you hate UT2004, probably you have some essential REQUIRMENTS to fill you up. I'm satisfied the way it is! What is it with you and the clean versions? They're okay, but Ballistic is better. Probably you've become so fond of mods you don't remember how it feels like to have a flak shell whizz through the air, rockets blast...... Okay James, don't take it as an offense.
Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:32 am ]
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I kind of agree with James about standard UT2004. It is just really really lame.

The cartoony particle effects, movements and jumps like what you see in platform jumping games, the worst gun sound effects I have ever heard in my lifetime. You can't tell the difference if a rocket or a pie is hitting a wall.
Author:  James [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:29 am ]
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well said Bjossi........ i see your obsession with pie still shows. but i do remember when i first got UT2004 (yah it was TeH BeSt). BW just patches up ut2004. we got new guns, new maps on the way, all we need now are BW taunts (and announcers), and BW SKINS!

ut2004 is a good "Base" for a game to be built on (AKA, mods), but shoudnt be tookin seriously as a real game. no doubt 2007 will have 3x the graphics but its still the same thing over again. i also think it will be more fun than 2004 but hey we are still talking about unreal tournament right?
Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:23 am ]
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Maybe they should keep custom announcers and taunts as a side-project for now. What I think the mod needs in a later release are the models and skins of the UTC, Skrith and other races.

By the way, only 3x the UT2004 graphics? I'd say at least 6x. ;)
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:38 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
But the UT3 vehicles were planned before Ballistic even existed. :P


we planned our vehicles long before i saw any UT2k7 screens or anything.. i'm not complainiong, just would be cool if ours were the first!! but we will still do them, and do them better!! :D
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