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Author:  SX [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:12 pm ]
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Alas, My UT2004 copy had died today, it will not work after everything I did to heal it.

So my BW days are over, but I can still participate in the UT3 stuff, and I'll still be here, even if I had no UT left.

I thank the RS brothers for making a such great mod for UT2004, Sgt. Kelly for his awesome bonus pack, Captain Xavious, for helping me out with his weapons.

"Plays Taps while the grave of My copy of UT2004 lowers in the dirt."

R.I.P UT2004

2004-2008


:((

Author:  Kaboodles [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:17 pm ]
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Died? How so?

Author:  SX [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:22 pm ]
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Some of my folders keep disappearing, And i don't know why.

And before you say "Buy antoher one" Keep in mind that in Harlem, there is no place I can buy one.

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:23 pm ]
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Delete every single UT2004 related file on your computer and then install it to a brand new location. Something like C:/Alternate/UT2004.

This sounds like the work of a virus.

Author:  Kaboodles [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:32 pm ]
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Yeah, if there was something wrong with your discs, you wouldn't be able to install at all.

You should definitely do a scan to make sure there's nothing nasty in your computer.

EDIT: As for buying, might I suggest Steam?

Author:  SX [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:34 pm ]
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Tried the last time I had to reinstall it. Failed miserably.

after my Anims folder went gone, I reinstalled to the D drive, It worked for a few weeks, but it caught up.

Also, I scanned the program with Avast! Antivirus. Said it was clean as a whistle.

I truly have no idea why it's doing this, it's just doing it with UT2004, nothing else.

Edit- Don't have steam, and I refuse to but UT2004 on teh internets.

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:38 pm ]
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Make a backup of your Animations folder and uninstall all mods you have that use it.

I'd recommend installing on C Drive though, D Drive is usually the Windows Partition.

Author:  Bulska [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:34 pm ]
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Epic Games is on Steam, go get it there, can't get the CD broken =D

Author:  Chavez [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:24 pm ]
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Sgt. Kelly wrote:
Make a backup of your Animations folder and uninstall all mods you have that use it.

I'd recommend installing on C Drive though, D Drive is usually the Windows Partition.


Not here.

Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:16 pm ]
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You might have something new(virus wise) that avast isn't detecting.(so I'm probaby wrong but who knows)

If you ever get your blood stained hands on another PC that can handle UT2004,then welcome back!

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:43 pm ]
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SX, if you bought a new copy, you'd have two perfectly healthy copies of the game. It is the computer you should be looking at suspiciously.

Author:  SX [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:39 pm ]
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Double post-

... Yeah, it's alive, again. Not really dead.

Turns out I added a map, and it replaced the whole folder.

I Apologize for double posting, and wasting your time. please lock this for it's no longer usable.

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:30 pm ]
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I removed one of the posts. And if I locked every thread that was not useful, the forums would be awfully quiet. ;)

Author:  Tyster [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:53 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
I removed one of the posts. And if I locked every thread that was not useful, the forums would be awfully quiet. ;)

Lol. These conversations do serve the important purpose of making my day 5 minutes shorter.

As for a case where you have a dead installation and a dead disk, you should not feel like you would need to buy another copy fo the game. By buying the first copy, you legally obtained a key, which is your right to have a copy of that program installed on your computer, right? If that is so, then certain workarounds (utorrent) should be perfectly legal, right?

Author:  Bjossi [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:11 pm ]
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No. Downloading copyrighted software is illegal regardless of how badly you treat your game discs. But if we look at it from non-legal perspective; I think it is ok to download a game if you bought a defective copy and the store refuses to give a replacement, which is too common.

Author:  Tyster [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:09 pm ]
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Really? I had the impression that buying a game gave you the right to have it installed on your machine, which would indicated that you would then have the right to obtain an alternate way to install the program you bought if the disk died. I know its technically illegal and I'm not encouraging anyone to do it, but does what I'm saying make any sense on a strictly moral basis?

Author:  Captain Xavious [ Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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Morally, it makes perfect sense. But morals and laws are different, quite different. Thats why an idiot could sue McDonalds for clumsily spilling her obviously hot coffee in her own lap and win.

Author:  Bjossi [ Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:25 pm ]
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Tyster wrote:
but does what I'm saying make any sense on a strictly moral basis?


As I pointed out above, it boils down to the situation. A person that just treats the CDs badly has no moral or legal basis for obtaining another copy illegally. But if you buy a defective copy and can't get a replacement where you got it from by any means, then there is a moral basis but not a legal one.

As far as I know the license comes with the disc. This might be why no CD patches are considered warez; they kill the need to put the "license" into the drive to play the game. So if you sell the disc, you are selling your license for using the software to the buyer. Same goes for a broken disc, the license dies with it.

Author:  cyberax [ Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:25 pm ]
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Well, the license is a touchy subject, and you have to read the EULA very carefully...in the case of a busted disc, most places like epic have a "replacement plan" if you can prove you purchased the orginal.

IMHO, it doesn't matter what media you install from, as long as your orginal purchased key is only used on one installation at any one time, and you have proof of that purchase. Anybody would find it hard to prosecute you for illegal software for that installation in that case.

Best bet, go buy the package off Steam (http://www.steampowered.com), they actualy have the whole lot going quite cheap. Then it's legal :)

You might also be able to register the game with your existing key in Steam, I'm not totaly sure as I haven't tried the epic stuff on Steam, but you can with most other games...so in theroy you can installl the free client, register your game with your legal key, download and play :)

Author:  Tyster [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:04 am ]
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If I understand right, broken disks are never problem with Steam, as long as you have your account login and name memorized becasue you can freely download steam and then download games you bought, right?

Author:  Bjossi [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:45 am ]
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The Steam system is vastly different to regular discs. Just be thankful they don't rewrite the EULA for (legal) internet distribution.

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:53 pm ]
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Thank *something*for that.

Author:  Bjossi [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:35 pm ]
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Whatever floats your boat.

Author:  SX [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:00 pm ]
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Well, everything is back to normal, although I'm still getting some stuff back together (No more weapon mods besides any BW related stuff)

I have the original disc from pre-ordering UT2004, I got on the day after releasing it. If by any chance my CD key is wacky, I'll have to see if I can find one in Havre, MT, although I so Doubt it.

I had the game for 4 years now, it's never happened before, seriously, either you put in folder or you don't, it's that simple, and at least name the folders "Maps" or "Music" not the freaking map name.

Ok, stop ranting, Josh...

Anyways...

At least the installation process is easier than UT3's for sure. :D

I don't have Steam. :| I'd rather have CD's than Downloading from the internet that's for sure, I dowloaded UT3 from Direct2Drive, it works but it takes forever to download. I wish I had the CD for UT3.

Well, UT2004 is better anyways. for sure. :D

Yeah, Everything's running again, I hope I don't screw up installing a map again, because it sucks.

Author:  Bjossi [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:27 pm ]
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SX wrote:
I don't have Steam. :| I'd rather have CD's than Downloading from the internet that's for sure, I dowloaded UT3 from Direct2Drive, it works but it takes forever to download. I wish I had the CD for UT3.


Then why don't you burn the downloaded files to a CD or DVD? %-6

Author:  SX [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:49 pm ]
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I should...

Also, why does my quotes have 218583500 on it?

Author:  Captain Xavious [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:50 pm ]
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He made a mistake. ;)

Author:  Tyster [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:20 pm ]
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In that regard, I think UT3 has the upper hand. If you're worried about vustom content killing things, then you just copy your mydocs/utGame directory somewhere and restore it if things don't work out. In fact, I probably should have copied my utGame folder after a fresh install and that would probably save me from reisntalling if things ever go haywire.

Author:  Bjossi [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:50 am ]
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Why did Epic have to put that folder into My Documents? I f***ing hate it when games keep data far away from the main folder. Is it so difficult to keep everything in the same root, for the sake of user convenience?

Please tell me this is configurable somehow.

Author:  Tyster [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:09 am ]
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Ok, I must admit it took me an entire 45 seconds to Google this one, but 20 seconds of that was spent blowing my nose.

http://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=598923

Basically, you can move your entire "My Documents" directory and update the properties accordingly. Someone else suggested changing a line in the .ini file to "ModOutputDir=D:\Script"

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