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Author:  MMM [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:00 am ]
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as you know there is a conflict going on in georgia, but what i have learned is that this conflict is just a small part of russia's bigger plan.
the real reason russia 'invaded' georgia is domination and oil. they need this to rebuild the soviet union.
yes, you heard it right, a new soviet union, a new cold war.
russia tries to achieve it by making europe dependent on russia's energy and oil.
while russian troop keep on making progress into georgia, they keep on claiming that they have stoped the fire and are moving back.
russia is also threatening east-european countrys that want to help georgia.
while the whole world knows there is a conflict in georgia, russians themselfs know of nothing and are kept blind with propaganda.
and if this conflict would escalate it will have world wide consequences.

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:02 am ]
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You gotta love conspiracy theories.

Author:  Glosmostinex [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:33 am ]
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cool, another world war and a nuclear winter :d

Author:  Captain Xavious [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:51 am ]
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Can you fill me in on your source of information, or is this your theory?

Author:  MMM [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:20 am ]
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source of information: TVN24 polish tv (its like a polish cnn).
its less a theory more a fact, my mother is polish and know the comunists very well.
during the cold war my mom was protesting against comunism.
and as a rusult of that they were spying on her, and even made a few attempts to kill her!
such a person is also a reliable source of information.
and if you know people who have lived in the soviet union, then ask them a few questions about it.

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:36 am ]
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When I first saw this in the newspaper, I thought, "What the %@*# are the Russians doing in Georgia?".

It was only after a while that I realized they weren't talking about the US. :p

Author:  bloodchain3824 [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:05 pm ]
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didn't they talked about that on the news a few days go? i didn't quite listen but i think they said that the US might be be senting troops there.

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:09 pm ]
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The US decided they are not going to take any military actions. Not yet at least.

MMM wrote:
its less a theory more a fact


Either it is a theory or a fact, take a pick. And where is a reliable source (in English, preferably) we can actually read?

Author:  bloodchain3824 [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:26 pm ]
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umm in the news official web page i guess

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:01 pm ]
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There is more than one news website on the internet. I can't do much searching at the moment, my connection is so unstable it makes plutonium act stable in comparison.

Author:  ficko88 [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:53 pm ]
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Sounds cool; reminds me on Cod4
But I live in Slovenia, should I be afraid ?

Author:  Kaboodles [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:05 pm ]
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This whole mess is actually the plot of the first Ghost Recon game. It's even set in 2008. Uncanny.

Author:  Eat Uranium [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:48 pm ]
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My own personal analsysis of this whole conflict is as follows:

Georgia started it (weather in retaliation to attacts or to 'retake' the territory).

Russia sees this as an oportunity to get away with invading Georgia.

Ceasefire is agreed, but the Russians refuse to leave. South Ossentians use this as a chance to start revenge killings.


On a side note, have you noticed how all the Russian soldiers are riding outside their BMPs and BRTs. Apparently they do this because they have no faith in the armour and prefer to be outside at all times.

Author:  SX [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:00 pm ]
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ficko88 wrote:
Sounds cool; reminds me on Cod4
But I live in Slovenia, should I be afraid ?


No, you are right next to Italy, Croatia, Hungary, and Austria, so don't worry.

Author:  Glosmostinex [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:12 pm ]
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I'm near argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay...
I'm sooo near russia :P

but War goes to all places, if it's large.(WW2, for example)

Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:47 pm ]
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7564176.stm

Author:  LuminousShadow [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:43 pm ]
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I live in the Netherlands, all somebody could need from us has to be Rotterdam Docks

Author:  MMM [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:21 pm ]
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well i live in the netherlands too, but i think there is nothing here that anyone would need. not even the rotterdam docks.
but lets forget about that.

news:
"Russian general says Poland risks nuclear attack for hosting U.S. missiles" (let me say that is just one of many threats towards poland from russia).
and in georgia russians are hunting journalists

and for those who thought my first post was just a conspiracy theory, eat this.
russian troops were already stationd in south-ossetia and abkhazia before georgia did anything!
even better, russians provoked georgia to send troop to these provinces.

Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:48 pm ]
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Russians do want to rebuild the soviet union, but they don't have control over Georgia anymore like the other pre-soviet countries. That means if they invade and take over the country, it would mean world war 3, no one wants that to happen, not even the Russians. My guess is that they are just helping Ossetia and Abkhazia to separate from Georgia, though with an unusual method.

Author:  Tyster [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:39 am ]
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Here's a good source of intel: we have these things in space all around the planet called sattelites. Can't those things zoom down to street level?

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:26 am ]
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What's your point?

Author:  Kaboodles [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:43 am ]
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Georgia has been looking to get NATO membership, and being once a Soviet state, I imagine Russia might be feeling threatened. I think they were just wanting to flex their muscle a little and demonstrate their dominion over the region to the West.

There is no way in hell Russia will attack Poland. I'm not even sure what they're whining about there. ABM sites in Poland won't be able to stop missiles going over the arctic.

As for the journalist shooting, you're going to need a little more info to jump to the conclusion that the Russians are actively hunting them down. The Georgian woman who got shot in the arm may have just taken a stray bullet from a firefight, and I've seen no indication that the Russians knew there were Turkish journalists in the vehicle they were firing at.

As for Russian troops in the region prior to this mess, there are a large number of Russian citizens in South Ossetia. Being such an unstable region, I imagine Russia has some interest in protecting its citizens.

Author:  Chavez [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:48 pm ]
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MMM wrote:
well i live in the netherlands too, but i think there is nothing here that anyone would need. not even the rotterdam docks.


Don't forget the fact that we have nothing to defend ourselves with at the moment.

I don't like all this. If it escalates, maybe all my Sam Fisher's skills will come to a use, I'm not hoping for anything though.

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:58 pm ]
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I got more Sam Fisher skills than you.

Author:  Glosmostinex [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:55 pm ]
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*begins to play Junk Wars*

Author:  LuminousShadow [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:10 pm ]
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US is also sending a Naval Force off to Iran, shit could get big

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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Jesus. I don't think the US economy could survive another kick in the nuts.

Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:46 pm ]
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If the senators and such stop buying waterbeds for the duration,I think we'll be okay. :d

Author:  Tyster [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:30 pm ]
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Ok, yall young whippersnappers, I think that the main problem is that people are growing soft and don't remember that war means sacrafice and re-prioritization. Ok, I'm done ranting. Apply it to whatever you want, but I had the US's agenda in mind. As for this Georga invasion, gosh, I dunno what to say. Flee and your enemy gets your land. Fight and you get shot?

Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:10 am ]
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A ) Losing your land and B ) Getting shot don't seem like good choices.

What about C ) Call the United Nations?

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