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My Moddb page for halflife weapons
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Author:  Sarge [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  My Moddb page for halflife weapons
yeah so I logged on moddb today and my page for the half life 2 weapons page has been deleted, whats up with that :/
Author:  Black Eagle [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Maybe it was hacked too, so they deleted stuff?.. :P
Author:  Blade sword [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Did you received a notice or whatever ?
Ask the administrators I think it should help
Author:  TurdDrive [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Sarge wrote:
yeah so I logged on moddb today and my page for the half life 2 weapons page has been deleted, whats up with that :/


Probably cause it might be a infringement of copyright.
Author:  Sarge [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
then why would they have to approve it before hand, i recived no emails or anything it was just gone, but my downloads are still under my profile :/
Author:  TurdDrive [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Sarge wrote:
then why would they have to approve it before hand, i recived no emails or anything it was just gone, but my downloads are still under my profile :/


Because it might have been approved without looking at it properly, it happens all the time.
Author:  Blade sword [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
I think he should have received some notice from the admins
Author:  arbee [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
There is also the possibility that because you're not the author of the said project. Adding other's projects on 'behalf' is usually frowned upon.

Here's the development thread of the project to clear this confusing context.
Author:  Sarge [ Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
But I was told by the Author I could do so :/ and really the author was a fake author and the real author contacted me and told me I could keep it up. so that makes no scene.
Author:  Blade sword [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
I host a lot of mods that I didn't developed myself so, that's not that.
Sarge ask the administrators of moddb, because no one can help you here
Author:  Sarge [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Just one thing, who's an admin?
Author:  Blade sword [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Contact Henley, he is admin of the site
Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
You guys do realize that porting Half Life content to Unreal is completely illegal, right? I'm surprised you thought they would keep the files up.
Author:  Blade sword [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
I disagree, it really depends if the mod authors had the authorization to do so, I saw dozens of weapon ports from game to game so that's not illegal as long as there is a proper authorization.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
I'm more inclined to think that the porting of weapons from HL to Unreal was not authorized. 90% of the time it isn't.
Author:  Blade sword [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
That's why I said it's a matter of authorization, I saw dozens of ports who are perfectly legal, it becomes illegal if the mod authors only ported stuff without any authorization.
It works also about the game remakes, some people port games to newer engines, you have the right to do so if you got the authorization from the game authors.
Author:  arbee [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Blade sword wrote:
I saw dozens of ports who are perfectly legal

I'm not sure if I ever saw such a thing. It's more of a "it's only illegal if you don't get caught" high risk release I always see.
Most even lie about having the go ahead like any Nintendo game remake or so, because Nintendo absolutely have qualms about their IP being used without authorization, just an example. Mario Kart: Source have no idea what they're getting into, and MGM and/or Activision might be building a case against Goldeneye Source already behind the scenes. It doesn't even matter if it's a project made for free without profit in mind - unauthorized use is still unauthorized use, and intellectual property is nothing to have 'lemming pressure' for.

Some companies are actually lax about fan use of IP, such as CAPCOM, but when you use names for titles like say MEGAMAN 13 you'll run into trademark issues instead as they will be required to sue, which also concerns the big potential for the above projects to be even more sued as well for trademark violation, and no, "changing one letter" won't save any butts and neither does the "free advertising" excuse since often the remake projects intend to exist to displace the commercial release so they don't have to buy them.
Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
I don't think Activision's building a case against Goldeneye: Source. They've had released versions for years now, and two commercial games by the same name have been produced during that period. Since I beta test for them I'd probably hear if any licensing flak was raining. ;)
Author:  Blade sword [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
When there is a problem with legality the Companies are often quickly responsive, not when the project is building (since most of the time the projects cancel themselves), but much more when it's close to come out, or when it came out.
Though the SiN remake project was aborted before it has something released by the company who owns ritual entertainment.

Yeah some companies are a bit lax since for them they see that as a form of advertising, but some companies like blizzard doesn't allow people making mods based on their IPs
There was a cool starcraft mod for C&C generals, and they shut down the project a few months after its release.
Author:  Sarge [ Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
admins, no replies :/ still have not found out what happened :(
Author:  Blade sword [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
Weird they usually reply, but I think it might be because of legality issue.
Sgt kelly pretty much said to me that valve doesn't authorize ports of their stuff even between their own games
Author:  Sarge [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
They should still at least tell me this >.<
Author:  Blade sword [ Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: My Moddb page for halflife weapons
The only way to have them being legal is the fact that the modders have to make their own stuff instead of importing. I think this wouldn't be a problem except if someone have something to add, I think this is the only legal way to do it

Even me I wasn't aware that porting HL stuff was illegal, I thought the modder in question asked permission for it. Well as it was said earlier in the thread some companies are more lax about this, since Epic for example doesn't forbid that kind of thing.
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