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Author:  ChaosMarine [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:17 am ]
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For some reason, the BW wiki is really screwed up.
http://gyazo.com/a0005b7cc1914a3cb608f74011c72158
Is this happening to anyone else?
Author:  {ABA}Worlock [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:20 am ]
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That and attack of the pop ups.
Author:  Captain Xavious [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:07 am ]
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http://wiki.runestorm.com/index.php?title=BW_Weapons

What you clicked is I don't know what.

You can get here through Runestorm's home page under Links.
Author:  ChaosMarine [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:05 pm ]
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I clicked the link in Kelly's sig.

It must be me, cos I clicked on that link, as well, and the problem's still there. :\
Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:25 pm ]
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Yeah, I'm having issues with it too...

It looks like the formatting has been ruined.
Author:  SX [ Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:31 pm ]
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I'm not having any trouble with it.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:39 am ]
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Looks good here..
Author:  CMGuy [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:31 am ]
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Image

Looks broken to me. :?
Author:  raziel [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:15 am ]
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And to me too... is it something to do with firefox? (uncle is a website maker person (idk the title)) and had problems once because firefox did something odd like this...

Mal

P.S tbh... it has always looked like that to me... never thought to say anything ^^;
Author:  Black Eagle [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:05 am ]
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Chrome is best, Firefox is too...fiddly... ;)
Author:  Bjossi [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:06 am ]
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Firefox is, however, the most accessible browser out there, Chrome being by far the worst in that regard.
Author:  Black Eagle [ Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:46 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
Firefox is, however, the most accessible browser out there, Chrome being by far the worst in that regard.


I suppose that is true, Chrome is rather lacking in that department... :)
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:02 am ]
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Accessible in what way? Installing? Clicking on the icon?

Firefox seems painfully slow to me. I had to test out bits of the site when I was redesigning it and FF always took forever to refresh, open and such. It's still about 5,000,000 times better than IE however :D
Author:  Black Eagle [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:43 am ]
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I believe he means Accessibility, as in aids for adjusting colors and etc..

I think.. Correct me if I'm wrong, otherwise I don't see the advantage it has over Chrome... :think:
Author:  Bjossi [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:08 am ]
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That is correct. Accessibility as in accessibility for a disabled person.

Mozilla are trying too hard to mimic Chrome though. The default interface, and the version number race. It took Firefox 6-7 years to go from 1.0 to 4.0 but a few months to go from 4.0 to 9.0.1. What the hell, Mozilla?
Author:  Yokelassence3 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:16 am ]
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Of course Firefox is trying to mimic Chrome. Chrome is rapidly gaining popularity with its proven speed advantages and superior handling of CSS and JS.

Furthermore the Google teams are faster and much better funded than the Mozilla teams, they are having no trouble accumulating the benifits of Firefox into Chrome without having any of the drawbacks. The Mozilla team are really being given a run for their money here. The frequent updates are a sign that they are trying desperately hard to keep up with Google. I admire their ambition

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Now as for our situation on the BW wiki. I have taken a look at it across my different browsers

In IE9: It looks just fine

In Chrome/Safari: the side menu is offset by 40 pixel to the top margin, causing it to bleed over the top of the title. This is caused by the sidebar being positioned absolutely. That means it respects only an X Y coordinate, not the position of nearby content. But here is the thing: Only IE is interpreting this coordinate correctly, not the other browsers

In Opera: Same as Chrome

In Firefox: the margin to the left of the content area fails, causing all text to fall behind the sidebar. This is caused by a CSS conflict.

My diagnosis: The wiki was poorly constructed

The Wiki was coded by someone who only tested it in IE9 and never bothered to check other browsers. It is not Firefoxes fault that whoever built the site left in CSS styles with conflicting names that browsers will set different priorities to, nor is it Chromes fault that the page structure is not semantic.

I can fix it for you guys if I have access to the source code.
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:22 am ]
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@ Yoke. Cyberax was responsible for the Wiki. There are changes I still want to make to the site in general, and I'm not sure a Wiki is needed. It's also sucking up limited databases.

Can anyone tell me if perhaps we can 'move' the content over to a site like www.wikia.com? Is this a good idea or not?
Author:  Yokelassence3 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:31 am ]
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If it wont cost you anything, then yes that is a good idea.

Also are you saying Cyberax actually coded the wiki? Or he just organised the data?

I expect the wiki's code came from a template engine rather than something made from scratch. If it is the latter, I meant no offense
Author:  ShadowBlade [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:45 am ]
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I have no idea how Cyber did the wiki :P It was almost certainly a template from somewhere. He always hated themes and styling, so perhaps things got a bit slack there :)
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