It will be in version 2.0, so you'll just have to wait.
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Title pretty much says it all. I went into the ballistic script file, looked through it for about an hour trying to figure out what the hell controls the loadout menu selections, and finally found the needed section. I've made a modification to it that allows the RS8 & XRS10 as sidearms and the HVC-MK9 & the MRS138 as main weapons, and have tested it & seen that it thus far works as intended. However, I also tried to make it so that the RS8 & XRS10 can be used as possible startup weapons, with little success, although those modifications don't seem to have affected anything else negatively, so I won't mess with them any further unless needed. I will only provide a download, however, if the creators of the Ballistic Weapons mod allow me to do so. I don't want to go against their wishes, and if they'd rather me not distribute this modification, then I won't. Otherwise, I'll provide a download to my modified Ballistic.u file... |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
It will be in version 2.0, so you'll just have to wait.
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
That's fine, but what I'm saying here is that I've already created a custom file that supports the mentioned features, and would like to distribute it, but only if I have permssion... ...Unless, of course, that is the denial of permission... |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
I'm not sure to be honest, just send SB a private message with request for permission, or wait for his reply here.
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
ok.. good for you
but it will be in 2.0.. for all to have... but please dont distribute it to anyone yet.. could cause some bad issues with compatibility, etc.. Dc will post here
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Alrighty then... Waiting time it is. 
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Yippie for compatibility issues! |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
You meant 'no yippie'. 
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
good stuff on trying though, hopefully it can be distributed... |
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Mr.UglyPants wrote: Yippie for compatibility issues!
Well, it would be up to the user whether or not to download it, and then face the compatibility issues on their own terms... I guess I'd just have to include some sorta disclaimer. |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
SB didn't seem to have a problem with ur development since the idea wasnt squashed right when he replied. so a disclaimer could work |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Uuummm....SB, DC, why can't Finalizer email it to you to check...we can always distribute it as a "not supported" addon for BW... ? I'm sure some people would appreciate it while waiting for 2.0. |
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Well, I've been making some other developments with the ballistic.u file, namely allowing the player to spawn with the XRS10 & RS8 in normal mode... I don't know if it also means that the player can spawn with any weapon using swapping now, or if I've just managed to make it work with the XRS10 & RS8 (Or if I've made a situation where the player might spawn with no weapons at all- I'd have to explain what I changed to see if that's the case). However, thus far, all my tests have shown that the XRS10 & RS8 can be spawned with in addition to the normal weapons, and I'll be testing to see if it also means that one can spawn with any swapped weapon now as well... As for a disclaimer, that's what I was figuring I was gonna do the whole time. I guess I could toss together something here: ~~~~~ WARNING: Use of the custom ballistic.u file should be entirely at the user's discretion. RuneStorm & it's partners are not responsible for any problems occuring after the instillation of this modification, and any problems related to this unofficial version posted on the forums will be disregarded by the members of RuneStorm, and possibly immediately locked, as the forums are designed for questions concerning OFFICIAL versions of the Ballistic Modification. If any problems do occur during use of the custom Ballistics Modification patch, you may contact me, Finalizer, via private message at RuneStorms forums, and I may or may not be able to assist you with that problem. I will NOT redirect a question or problem to a RuneStorm member even if it actually arises from the base Ballistics Weapons modification, as all problems that come after using the custom patch will immediately be assumed to stem from the patch itself, even if it actually does not. All compatibility issues, including inability to play online with others, or gameplay problems that result from installing this patch, are all a risk of using this patch. I will do my best to help solve any problems, but remember this: THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL MODIFICATION. RUNESTORM CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE; YOU YOURSELF ARE THE SOLE RESPONSIBlE INDIVIDUAL FOR USING THIS PATCH. Thank you and have a nice day! ~~~~ That's just an example idea tossed together. Any RuneStorm members, feel free to have me add/remove anything from the text itself. Finally, should I PM someone here for permission to distribute this modification here, or just continue waiting here? If so, who should I PM? (Spell it out for me- I'm not too familiar with initials, although I'll assume SB refers to ShadowBlade) |
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| Author: | cyberax [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
I'm sure SB (yes thats ShadowBlade) will reply soon. As far as I'm concerned I don't see any problem if you post the download in a thread in the general forum (but we'll wait for SB to give the final go-ahead). You can PM him if you like, but I'm sure he'll give you an answer here. I would rather have modified versions here, than floating around somewhere else on the net. At least that way we can keep an eye on them and help/learn with/from them! Hell, we might even create a "un-supported modifications" section in the forums if there is enough interest....again SB and DC's call... Your disclaimer looks a bit stiff to me...again I don't have a problem with people getting it off the general forum, or asking questions about it ,as long as it's in general, as it is not a BW supported thing. apart from that, it's ok, lets wait for the final word from SB. Generaly runestorm doesn't have too much of a problem with people using BW as a base, as long as credit is given and you don't bugger up BW ! (there's already someone with an add-on weapons pack for JW in the JW forums). Another point is, your work could go towards helping the devs, and could possibly be incorporated in a later version (if the devs see fit). |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
This actually DC + SB replying here: Well, ok, you can post your modified Ballistic.u file in this forum, and people should know that using the modified .u WILL cause their BW to become net incompatible with people /server using the official releases. It's all in that disclaimer, me thinks... The current (in development) build of BW which will be v2.0 when done actualy already includes the changes you've implemented in this modification.
Looks like you got the go ahead from RuneStorm.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Pretty good disclaimer Finalizer. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Cool! Someone other than me making stuff for RuneStorm stuff! |
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| Author: | Finalizer [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Cool, I'll post the ballistic.u file soon then. Here's the current situation: -Ballistic loadout works dandy with the new weapons. -Sadly, I was wrong about getting ballistic swapping to work with the assault rifle/shield gun. You can spawn with the XRS10 & RS8, but you still can't change what you spawn with. (I'm assuming it has to do with the ability to choose whether to spawn with a pistol or the default random weapons, or if that was created because of the way weapons at spawn work... I'll keep playing around in this department) -What I really wanna do, but I'm trying to hold off on this, is change the default swapping to something more along my tastes (Railgun replaces super weapons, R78 replaces UT04 lightning gun/UT04 sniper rifle, lightning gun & G5 both swap w/ rocket launcher, XRS10 & XK2 swap with Shock Rifle, M50 & Skirth rifle swap with link gun) so that it would be a bit more balanced for weapon-locker based matches (Namely ONS, where having the railgun spawn in lockers makes vehicles near useless & power nodes too easy to destroy). Maybe I'll release two versions... Since both kill your online play ability, it wouldn't matter which one players use, and 2.0's release should make any patch disposable, it probably wouldn't matter too much... Cyberax- Well, yeah, the disclaimer's stiff, but that's pretty much the point. Although I don't want users to think this thing is guaranteed to fubar Ballistics Weapons, I do want to make it entirely clear that it isn't RuneStorm's responsibility at that point. 'Course, if it actually helped the devs at some point, that would be wonderful... What could be really helpful is a UMOD installer that could actually modify specific scripts in existing files. All I did was add a few lines in a few properties at most, and it would be handy for the devs (and the users on slower connections) if they didn't have to release a whole new ballistic.u file every time they wanted to add a few weapons or simple changes... (That, and it'd make weapons packs a bit more practical, since currently we have to wait for a major release [or custom modification] to see true full support for new weapons...) DC/SB- Cool. I'll include the disclaimer with the download, and have it in the 1st post. Just an extra question: Should I go ahead and create a different thread for the download itself, so folks can see that it's the actually fully released patch, and make it the main place to converse over the patch & any problems with it? Oh, and many thanks for the go ahead. I'm sure it'll make some other users happy.
Mr.UglyPants- Well, I do want to get the point across that the fine workers here at RuneStorm shouldn't be bothered by stuff created by folks who aren't even members of the development team... Xavious- More like modifying... I would poo my pants like no tomorrow if I could actually figure out how to code my own weapons... (I've been thinking of sponsering a weapon, but it sounds like the devs are already backlogged, and I'm not exactly a wealthy person...) Maybe I'll present the idea in another thread. Oh, and nice job with your JW weapons pack. Quite enjoyable to use the Claymore bravehart style.
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| Author: | cyberax [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Finalizer wrote: Oh, and many thanks for the go ahead. I'm sure it'll make some other users happy.
Please post it in the appropriate new forum
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
Thanks, Finalizer. I'd have to say the claymore is probably my favorite, too. But really, to make a weapon for junk war takes really no programming skill. Just make a model, export it to UEd, take a code from a preexisting weapon thats fairly similar, and basically change the damage and if you want to get real intricate, you can even use different animations than the weapon had, if you look in UEd, you'll find that there's weapon animations for nearly any type of weapon already available. |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Custom Ballistic.u file to allow bonus pack weapons in loadout |
cool... 
now u can post it in the Custom BW mods forum
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