And use a special kind of gas to make superheated flames, and the flames travel a long distance from the gun.
I like you already dude.
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| Author: | Spiced Hammer [ Fri May 05, 2006 9:15 am ] |
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The flamethrower seems a popular idea for a new weapon. Just so we're strait on this, I'd love to see a flamethrower properly done too- it would be kinda like a cross between the spread of a shotgun and the constant spray of an SMG. Since BW isn't cartoony like UT and the weapons are supposed to fit together instead of being a random mishmash like ChaosUT, a flamethrower needs a reason to be included. Treaty isn't the only reason no one uses flamethrowers any more; there are already weapons similarly effective at every range that aren't huge and dangerous to the user and don't have volatile tanks. This should be solved by making it futuristic like other BW guns: give it a fuel cylinder loaded like a largish clip that isn't on the outside and exposed. Since it's futuristic, say it uses exotic expanding foam fuel with incredible chemical energy or something like that, the development of which allowed the flamethrower to become a practical weapon. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri May 05, 2006 10:51 am ] |
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And use a special kind of gas to make superheated flames, and the flames travel a long distance from the gun. I like you already dude.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat May 06, 2006 7:48 pm ] |
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i would accaulty hate to see the flamethrower in BW! My reasons #1: ChaosUT has it and its crappy and poorly implemented #2 other mods have it and is crappy #3 it would be a pain in the ass to get the flames from it to look kick ass good! |
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| Author: | Redshift [ Sat May 06, 2006 7:56 pm ] |
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I hope it won't spam the whole screen with flame fx like the other ones... Nice n tight, and sticky like napalm. And I still think there should be a ranged function like little incendiary (fuel) nades. Great for shooting through (high) windows and such... |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Sat May 06, 2006 8:33 pm ] |
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you say others make their flame crap?? well then.. we'll have to show you what a real flame thrower looks like!:laugh: |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat May 06, 2006 8:53 pm ] |
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Mr.UglyPants wrote: Quote: i would accaulty hate to see the flamethrower in BW!
My reasons #1: ChaosUT has it and its crappy and poorly implemented #2 other mods have it and is crappy #3 it would be a pain in the ass to get the flames from it to look kick ass good! You don't have faith in the developers? Look at what they have accomplished already, then read your post again. 
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun May 07, 2006 12:54 am ] |
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ah well thats why the Ballistic Weapons mutator has the ability to tell which weapons to spawn (which i friggen love, now i always get my M50, BOO YAH you stupid X2 gun):evil: |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sun May 07, 2006 1:12 am ] |
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I could kick your's and your M5's ass with the XK2, with my eyes closed.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun May 07, 2006 2:18 am ] |
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My M50 would PWN you before you even had a chance to close your eyes! Post edited by: Mr.UglyPants, at: 2006/05/07 03:19 |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sun May 07, 2006 3:20 am ] |
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And my XK2 would pwn you before you even noticed me. *cough* silencer *caugh*
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun May 07, 2006 1:58 pm ] |
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My M50's grenade launcher would PWN you even before the match started!B) * cough* distace killing *cough* Post edited by: Mr.UglyPants, at: 2006/05/07 16:51 |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sun May 07, 2006 5:05 pm ] |
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*cough* You'd go to prison for murder *cough*
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun May 07, 2006 5:23 pm ] |
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You'd go to jail for murdering me *cough* how about we shake hands and stop this stupid fighting M50 OWNS Post edited by: Mr.UglyPants, at: 2006/05/07 18:23 |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sun May 07, 2006 6:07 pm ] |
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I didn't want to kill you before the fight, you wouldn't respawn.
/shakes hand with UglyPants |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Sun May 07, 2006 6:54 pm ] |
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those 2 guns r some of my favs.. especially the M50 tho:laugh: mind u.. that XK2 is sweet.. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sun May 07, 2006 7:39 pm ] |
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I know, me and XK2 were going to get married until she caught me using another weapon.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Mon May 08, 2006 12:12 am ] |
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Bjossi wrote: Quote: I didn't want to kill you before the fight, you wouldn't respawn.
/shakes hand with UglyPants har har Bjossi!! So back to topic what, would you carry a tank of exploslive fuel on your back when using the Flamethrower? |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon May 08, 2006 1:01 am ] |
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Is it less dangerous to carry a bag full of peta-ionized uranium capsules to power up the Railgun?
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Mon May 08, 2006 1:02 am ] |
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maybe!! |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon May 08, 2006 1:09 am ] |
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It's not, I can tell you that.
What about something that protects the fuel tanks on the back? Like an invisible energy field around the tanks? If you are carrying the flamer when you die, you should explode into a skeleton. 
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Mon May 08, 2006 2:52 am ] |
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yeah that be cool like the effects you get when the flame grenades get one you! |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Mon May 08, 2006 10:28 am ] |
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If the tanks get shot.. the tanks will start spraying, then explode a bit later!!:evil: and have a nice radius... (probably) |
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| Author: | Spiced Hammer [ Mon May 08, 2006 10:31 am ] |
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Redshift wrote: Quote: I hope it won't spam the whole screen with flame fx like the other ones... Nice n tight, and sticky like napalm. And I still think there should be a ranged function like little incendiary (fuel) nades. Great for shooting through (high) windows and such... I like the way you think! If the fuel projects for a few metres before igniting it can get to the target faster, have better range, be a little bit safer and easier to aim. Plus, it would fit the futuristic theme better and you don't have to figure out how to make it look good. IMO it seems video game flamethrowers are killed by the fact that flames flow like liquid around terrain and walls 'N stuff and the ones in game don't simulate fluid mechanics. Having the fuel only ignite after hitting the target would get around this without making your CPU choke on obscene physics workload. I'm thinking have a stream of projectiles affected by gravity that, upon hitting the target do the following:
=> Determine whether the target has been hit before. => If no, spawn an actor on it. => If yes, tell the actor it's being hit again. The actor works like the sticky grenades in default UT, but it can be charged up like the mines in the spidersteroids mut. They start spawning the flame effects already made by the Willy Petes in BW, but if you keep spraying the poor target even more flaming death starts coming out of them... It'd be kinda like a super berserk biorifle in GOD OF HELLFIRE mode! |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Mon May 08, 2006 10:38 am ] |
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i guess u all have 2 c wot happens with the flamer.. it probably have an unignited fuel mode.. |
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| Author: | Spiced Hammer [ Mon May 08, 2006 11:36 am ] |
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Bjossi wrote: Quote: It's not, I can tell you that. That's exactly why I suggested it have a small tank in a well-protected box. Significant technological refinements would be needed to make a flamethrower practical; that's the whole point of the thread.
What about something that protects the fuel tanks on the back? Like an invisible energy field around the tanks? If you are carrying the flamer when you die, you should explode into a skeleton. Yeah, the SMG is sexy. |
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| Author: | Redshift [ Mon May 08, 2006 3:00 pm ] |
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ShadowBlade wrote: Quote: i guess u all have 2 c wot happens with the flamer.. it probably have an unignited fuel mode..
Well, it could also have a 3rd Special mode... ;) For ex. prim = normal fire, alt = nades, Special --> switches alt to fuel spraying. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Mon May 08, 2006 3:42 pm ] |
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What about special mode switches to another type of fuel that emits blue-ish fire that does more damage?
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