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| Author: | SX [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Humans have a machinegun so why not the skrith? A465 Plasma machinegun Primary- fires plasma rounds extremely fast, ripping and destroying vehicles fast, also is the fastest healing weapon for vehicles. Alt- This mode fires much larger skrith energy projectiles. It is a chargeable fire mode, in which you hold down alt fire, which pours energy into gun, then when you release alt fire, it shoots it like a mortar round/ G5. Namely it has a small arc over a long straight-flying distance. This is quite visible, with the energy leaving a huge trail of excess energy behind it (like the skrith rifle does but larger). When it hits an object, it splashes it with energy, most of it inflicts a combination of explosive and burning damage, while stray energy will fly off in random arcs toward the ground, burning if it lands on you or if you step in it. Upon firing, it will leave a bit of a recoil, then it'll settle down for you to charge it again. Don't expect to come out alive on a fully charged one. Also this does take up ammo fast. ammo- same as the XMV-850 Story- this weapon is seen on the Skrava airplanes, which is known as A346 machinegun, the skrith and cyrons had planned about this before, but didn't need it because they thought it was going to be easy taking down humans, but a few years later, they went back and made new plans, taking the A346 and making modifications for making humans whimper in their wake. what it kinda looks like http://www.nextdimension.org/other/doom ... smagun.jpg Death Messages: Primary- Xan's now black and blue thanks to SX's Plasma Machine Gun Xan, Why do you stand in SX's blue bolts of fury? Alt- Xan is torn apart thnks to SX's Alt Fire. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
I think having it have a drill and grenade abilities is going overboard. This would have definitely been a remnant from the first Human/ Skrith War, and by my accounts the Skrith rifle is also one from the First war and it doesn't have loads of features (only the skrith sidearm does) then neither should a Rapid Energy Rifle. My thoughts. It should have two firing modes. By fire modes i mean Prim and Alt fire. This gun is simplistic in its design, its made to one thing, kill. I imagine this guns ammo is contain ala skrith rifle style, except its like 2 large skrith rifle ammo front to back on the top of the gun or they'd be around it. The gun itself is like an heavy version of what a skrith rifle would be. By heavy, it wouldn't have a backpack, it would be more of an ugly large skrith rifle. (Primary Fire): This mode fires small trails of energy (like those from the skrith rifle but smaller), these travel quite fast and do very little damage (less then the minigun per bullet), but this fire fire mode spews them out at a speed thats just a tad faster than the Xk2, with little recoil or chaos, only problem is that it doesn't do much damage unless the guys being hit for a while by it constantly, its not an instant death like the current minigun. you'll move at the speed like you were carrying the G5 and a quarter (a quarter of another G5) . This mode consumes the energy (ammo) fast, though each projectile fired doesn't cost much ammo, after firing it for a while you lose a lot. Ammo comes in large packs like 300 energy, though will be easily used up when holding primary fire down for a time. For Alt fire the gun chooses it by you using the Weapons Fire Mode by choosing the two alt fires in it, whichever is selected is what happens in alt fire. (Alt Fire #1): This mode fires much larger skrith energy projectiles. It is a chargeable fire mode, in which you hold down alt fire, which pours energy into gun, then when you release alt fire, it shoots it like a mortar round/ G5. Namely it has a small arc over a long straight-flying distance. This is quite visible, with the energy leaving a huge trail of excess energy behind it (like the skrith rifle does but larger). When it hits an object, it splashes it with energy, most of it inflicts a combination of explosive and burning damage, while stray energy will fly off in random arcs toward the ground, burning if it lands on you or if you step in it. Upon firing, it will leave a bit of a recoil, then it'll settle down for you to charge it again. Don't expect to come out alive on a fully charged one. Also this does take up ammo fast. Though it takes a bit of time for the system to cool down upon full charge-up then charge again and fire. (Alt Fire #2): This mode fire a energy round 1/3 bigger than a normal skrith rifle round, when you hold alt fire, it launches these projectiles at a rate slower than the skrith rifle but not much slower. These are fired at a rate of fire also slower than the skrith rifle. Due to its size, it will of course inflict damage, but will also leave a tad bit of burning (primary doesn't leave burning) on you, so you'll suffer a 1 second (or less) of burning from 1 or 2 hits, more hits means longer the burns stay. Each projectile takes up more ammo than primary, say if primary was 1 than this would be 6. so the gun's alt fire would be decided on which mode its on, either alt fire 1 or 2. Due to the nature of the skrith being run and gun killers, i doubt they had time nor the sheer patience to bother with making the Rapid Energy Rifle deployable. This gun doesn't have much to it, no special, no fire modes, no deploying, its a large beast of a rifle that the skrith created, and was intended to be used for slow support to aid advancing troops, though soon after the skrith realized that their armor absorbed the energy weapons of the humans, they quickly forgot about this gun. |
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| Author: | SX [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Indeed, i shall edit it. Btw i like 1 better |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Me too, but you think having them as fire modes for alt fire would be a good idea? And if you want, u can just copy paste the idea. |
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| Author: | SX [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Thanks for the help
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Alright, now I love the look of that minigun in the pic, but it doesn't look very skrithy, it'd need a complete overhaul I'd say. And I got a question, what do you mean by its ammo being the same as the XMV? Do you mean same ammo maxes, or same ammo itself? Either way, I think that needs a bit of changing. An energy weapon with an ammo capacity the same as the XMV is just plain crazy. Plus, I'd assume it has different firing rates (namely, slower) compared to the human minigun, as I see those extreme firing rates as something that kinda makes the XMV unique compared to the other weapons, and with an ammo count as high as the XMV's, you'd have to crazy fast firing rates in order for the ammo to make sense. To have 900 round clips and a slower firing rate it'd be able to fire the entire match without needing a reload. But... if you meant that a skrith weapon should have the same ammo type as a human weapon, I don't really think I even need to say anything about that. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
We don't need a second minigun. A new Skrith weapon would be great, but another rotary cannon would just cheapen the first one and make it less unique, even if this new one does fire weird plasma projectiles. |
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| Author: | SX [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
We only have one rotary cannon K, so this can be made if the Dev's like it or not. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Kaboodles wrote: We don't need a second minigun.
A new Skrith weapon would be great, but another rotary cannon would just cheapen the first one and make it less unique, even if this new one does fire weird plasma projectiles. It wouldn't be a rotary cannon type, well at least my version wouldn't be. |
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| Author: | Yokelassence [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Rotary cannons are much too human. This thing would more likely be a series of skrith rifles slapped together. Although that minigun in that picture X posted looks too cool. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
I second that we don't need another minigun. The skrith can by all means make a weapon tha fires very fast, but the 6-barreled spinning monster is and will always be a human creation only. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Somehow, i have a feeling that no one besides Storm_X has read my idea for a skrith rapid fire gun. |
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| Author: | SX [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
ok fine, it won't be a minigun, but more of a very fast firing plasma machine gun. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Exactly what i made my idea on, its like a rapid firing skrith rifle, and cause it fires the projectiles faster, its larger. Though the Skrith only know of Rifles, so its still called a rifle. |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
[br][img width=640 height=480]../../files/public/1182975092_287_FT38389_plasma_rifle.jpg[/img]
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| Author: | SX [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Cool! i like it! |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
I thought this was supposed to be a Skrith gun. That doesn't look Skrithy at all. :/ |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
But, I haven't made any texture or stuff like that, just a concept... |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Fixed it a little in paint
[br][img width=467 height=296]../../files/public/1183009628_287_FT38389_skrith_gun.jpg[/img] And colored; [br][img width=467 height=296]../../files/public/1183010093_287_FT38389_skrith_gun_colored.jpg[/img] |
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| Author: | DK [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
SX, what did I tell you about these things...!? =__=U You're churning out these "Xtreme" weapon ideas of yours too quick and too soon. If you continue to do this, other weapon ideas (including other people's, not just yours) will become diluted and bland... Want that to happen...? |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Nice Enter, but look at how the skrith rifle and sidearm look, and use that as a base to build on it to make it look more skrith like. Also, i doubt the energy would be contained like that, check how RS did it with the skrith rifle, and that'll give you an idea as to how it should go, but i do like how it sticks out. |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Dk- don't worry, when i'm in canada, i won't have internet for awhile. but you do have a point there... enter- looks better, but still really cool |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Holy crap Enter! That looks awesome!!!
That little canister on the side, is that some sort of coolant for the gun? Might be an interesting bit of eye candy I'd say.
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
I want the canister to make sense, more than just to be eyecandy. |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Thanks, I'm done with a more skrithier looking gun now, gonna upload it when I have time. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
A coolant canister for a gun like this makes quite a bit of sense. |
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| Author: | EnteR [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
Ok, here is a more skrithish version of it; [br][img width=467 height=296]../../files/public/1183058969_287_FT38389_skrith_gun_v2.jpg[/img] |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
That's nice but i don't remember having a blade on it though. i could add it. what do you think, a blade or not |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
That concept art looks nifty, but I can't help but wonder if it will look similar to the skrith rifle in 1st person view. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Plasma Machine Gun |
I personally liked the version just prior to the newest one. I love the latest one, but the one without the blade looks more original and still very skrithy.
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