| RuneStorm http://www.runestorm.com/forums/ |
|
| Gener-ish Weapon ideas http://www.runestorm.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=39041 |
Page 1 of 1 |
| Author: | Kranren [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
I've been having a whole buncha weapon ideas, but I don't wanna post them all separately as I think that if other people took them and ran with them they could be considerably better. Loading Methods -Metal Storm weapons are insanely rapid fire, but take a long time to reload. This is a ridiculous amount of fire power to put into one weapon, especially since you can have a pistol empty its whole magazine in less than a second. -Stripper clips are really cool. Put it on top, push the cartridges down, and throwaway. I think some weapon should use them. -Loading along the top of the weapon, like on the FN P90. Allows for a huge magazine that is still (Edit: I have no idea what went here) General Weapon Ideas There are a couple of real world weapon types this game is missing: -Precision Rifle (Semiauto Sniper Rifle; a semiauto only (why should bolt do more damage with the same barrel and ammo?) of the Avarice sounds perfect) -Anti-Material Rifle: Somewhere between the current Sniper and the Railgun, it would do a lot against people and even more against tanks -Another Assault rifle: The M-50 is cool and all, but why not another one? A close range carbine would be cool -PDW: An armor piercing SMG? Sounds totally balanced to me. But PDWs are actually interesting so I'd like to see one. Specific Weapons -Neostead-Style Shotgun: a weapon that could switch between slug and shot on the fly would be really cool. -Slug gun: A double barreled shotgun that shoots really huge bullets instead of shot. Not that complex, but really effective at medium ranges. -G-11-style gun: An assault rifle that has a 3 round burst with ridiculous speed, and a more controllable Auto fire. The caseless ammo should be no problem in the year 2150, and the 50 round clip should make up for the lack of a grenade launcher. This is all I can think of right now. Any more specific weapons I make may go in here. |
|
| Author: | DK [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
You lost me somewhere after FN P90... |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Kranren wrote: -G-11-style gun: An assault rifle that has a 3 round burst with ridiculous speed, and a more controllable Auto fire. The caseless ammo should be no problem in the year 2150, and the 50 round clip should make up for the lack of a grenade launcher. This one sounds great. A real future weapon. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
that weapon was actualy designed sometime in the 60 or 70s, It was a good rifle and the ammo wasnt to hard to produce or use it was just the fact that the nation that devoled it has so much old ammo for other rifles switching over to that ammo type would of been expensive. But from what i understand it was a very well designed weapon its only draw back, politics. You are talking about the rifle that loads from the top right? |
|
| Author: | Kranren [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Both the P90 and the G11 are top loaders. The P90 is a PDW that I think is still produced, but the G11 was scrapped since it's ammo was too expensive for a world post cold war. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Well its not that it was to expensive, it just would not have been cost effective to replace their existing ammo with a special round for one gun when they had large amounts of existing ammo that was used in a couple of guns. The FN p90 is a very nice weapon. i think it fires 5.7 but i cant remember, ambidextrious too. all the wieght is in the back because thats were most of the mechanics are. Very interesting designs for both weapons. |
|
| Author: | CEO_KAZUYA_MNT [ Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
your g11 gun would work perfectly we already have guns that use caseless ammo and the only anti material rife we have on the market now is the berret m82 a1 and berret xm500 50.caliber bmg sniper rifle |
|
| Author: | Kaboodles [ Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
An anti-tank rifle would really be redundant here, with the Rail gun and all. Also, stripper clips are awesome, but probably won't be in use 100 years in the future. Although if anyone were to ever create a Mauser C96 pistol for BW, I would love him/her forever. |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Yet its a 143 years in the future, so i say go stripper rounds (btw, wtf is a stripper round). |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
You guys underestimate stripper clips, I use them in my sks, my mauser, and my lee enfield, and my m95 uses manlicher clips. I think a semi auto rifle like the sks in bw would be awesome or even a bolt action rifle like the enfield wold be cool. A stripper clip is just a piece of stamped metal that holds the rounds on it that you put into groves on the rifle and push down into the magazine, give me some time and I'll get some pics of me loading my SKS with some. for now heres a pic of one and my hand. http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191 ... rclips.jpg I can dig up some more info on the G11 if your interested. The p90 is still produced and used by many countries, I think some American special forces use em, the FN five seven pistol uses the same round that the p90 uses. |
|
| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Yeah they're cool and all, but I don't think you'll be seeing them 100 years from now. I mean, do any modern weapons use them? |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
The sks is still considered a modern weapon, many countries still use bolt action and use them. So yes they could see 100 years. They were around before WW1 and still see service with many countries up to now. |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
I'm still totally confused as to what his SKS thingy is. (a nice explanation would be helpful). |
|
| Author: | Kranren [ Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
IIRC, the AK-47 was designed as an SMG to supplement the SKS assault rifle. However, they realized the AK was so much more useful at everything other than long range shooting. I would not consider it a modern weapon, but I also think that the M-16 is getting a tad dated. Russia has begun phasing out the AK series to be replaced by the AN. Link to Modern Firearms on the SKS: http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl01-e.htm |
|
| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Yeah, stripper clips have been around for a while, and I really don't think they provide any huge advantage to standard magazines. I don't see any new weapons being design around them, so I doubt they'll see much future use outside of a few countries' armies or for reloading magazines. |
|
| Author: | atc [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Would like to see a P90 around. Instead of trying to remember what it had, better full wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90 |
|
| Author: | Kranren [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
More Weapons: Saiga type Shotgun- Looks just like an AK, 'cause it's based on the AK action. If you used the 20 guage variant, it would possibly be balanced as a semi-auto vs the pumps. WA-2000- This sniper rifle looks exactly like a sniper rifle from the future. Google WA-2000 and you get pictures of something that looks like a Star Wars blaster. Bozar- From Fallout 2. A super-heavy battle rifle on a bipod. Devastating at all ranges. Probably would be classed as either a sniper rifle or a machine gun. Also, on stripper clips: In 2150, I think that pump shotguns will be seriously outdated for normal power rounds; weapon design will make all sorts of reliable semi-auto shotguns. That being said, all 4 shotguns are pump action for balancing, I think. The point of using stripper clips is that they allow for a cool looking loading method that takes a bit longer than changing a magazine. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Actualy from what i hear russia is turning back from the 5.45 to 7.62 mm soldiers were complaining that it didnt have the stopping power of the larger caliber. The Ak-47 is the most reliable automatic rifle ever made. It wasnt designed as a submachinegun it was designed as a rifle that used a smaller version of their standard rifle cartridge, THe rifle was made for close range use in city type or forest type enviroments where the target is under 300 yds. Its extremely durable with its wooded stock and iron reicever. They require very little cleaning and can be dragged through sand dunes and will still operate just fine The M16 is a second rate piece of plastic garbage, The caliber is to small, they are to fragile to use in hand to hand, they jam if even a little dirt gets into the action, they are expensive. Some good things about them though is they are accurate and are light, other than that compared to an Ak series rifle the m16 rifle series are junk. BTW the sks is NOT an assault rifle, its a semi automatic rifle made for about the same ranges as the ak and has the same reliabilty but the actions are different. The 7.62x39mm round is alot more powerful than the 5.56mm round. The military 7.62 is around 120 grains and the 5.56 is about 55 grains which means that the 7.62 will carry more energy and transfer more energy upon impact compared to the 5.56 which is just a fancy varmit round. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Thats an sks uglypants. That one there is mine though, its a yugoslavian m59/66 with grenade luancher on the end of the barrel. Good rifle for hunting. The russian ones are getting hard to find but them are the nicest ones in terms of finish and accuracy, the yugos are good have a decent finish and are fairly accurate, and are still pretty cheap, i think I paid about 150 for mine.[br][img width=800 height=600]../../files/public/1184998491_201_FT39041_sks_.jpg[/img][br] |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
That is one beautiful gun. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Yes, they are a very simple elegant rifle. One of my favorites in my colection. There is almost no recoil. The ammo is still fairly cheap too. im happy i got one while i still could find them as they have stopped being imported fom what i hear. Get one if you fid it. |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
The wood on it is great, looks like its from a cherry tree. |
|
| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
I actualy think its beach just with a realy deep orange finish. It shows use, as does the launcher. its got a real good wieght, over 10 pounds and shoots like a dream. |
|
| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gener-ish Weapon ideas |
Beach wood is way more mangled looking. |
|
| Page 1 of 1 | All times are UTC - 6 hours |
| Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|
