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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
A new idea of mine that ive had running around for a while just got the oppurunity to put a very rough sketch down on paper. These are watercooled rifles the first one has 2 modes of fire semi auto or full, the sniper can only go semi auto. They both fire .303 british rounds which arent realy good for fully automatic weapons but i figured sometimes you just gotta have a little fun. I'll work on the designs a little more but thats them in a nutshell. The top rifle is the Mk8 No9 and the bottom is the Mk8 No10[br][img width=800 height=512]../../files/public/1184994290_201_FT0_water_cooled_thinginy_.jpg[/img][br] |
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| Author: | CEO_KAZUYA_MNT [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
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nice guns man 303s? cool id like to know what the damage these babies can do and did you mean 303.or 308. cuase the 308 is mor known and better chambered for sniper rifles |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
.303 basicaly same ballistoc qaulities as a .308. Its just a normal rimmed rifle round, it was used by britain for an extremely LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGG time. Its a good accurate round too. Im gonna work on some more, this time with a ruler and a sharp pencil. |
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| Author: | Kien [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 5:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
I don't see the reason for more standard assult rifles. :/ However, these gave me the idea of gyrojet rifles.  Slow full auto with mini rockets which has to accelerate to reach their top velocity.
But please cute the "Mk" name. -_- It has been used to death. |
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| Author: | SX [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:09 am ] |
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Cool! |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:37 am ] |
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The top rifle looks like its a Vikers machine gun (used in the British Army in WW1) welded to a rifle stock. Still, cool concept, reminds me of my averance (however i spelled it) class rifles. |
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| Author: | CEO_KAZUYA_MNT [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:35 am ] |
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well in real life the gyro rifles that fired mini bullet rockets were very ineffective they sucked and lacked the speed and power to kill one problem was the time needed for a rocket to accelerate to a high voloceity the gun barrels are to shrot and plus the rockets were to small to pack any punch anyway,and due to their small size they had little rocket power and couldnt go far at all they an effective range of about a few yards but still they hardly ever did any damage,lastly since they are so small they could never generate enough thrust to move at high speeds,unlike rocket luanchers that can luanch 6inch up to 1,000plusfoot rockets at thousands of miles an hours,firing a missile from rest to max speed in under 1 second. |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
Uglypants reconized it, I based the design slightly on the british vickers. I took some more time with a ruler and refined them both a little and here they are.[br][img width=800 height=701]../../files/public/1185069868_201_FT39568_watercooled_.jpg[/img][br] |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:07 pm ] |
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Looking much better, but why do they need such large barrels (the Vikers part). |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:39 pm ] |
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thats what holds the water, hence the watercooled part. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:44 am ] |
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One more thing, the sniper rifle already looks like the current one we have. just the whole hand gripe and stock, even a bit of the barrel. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:21 pm ] |
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I wish the current sniper looked cooler. It seems inconceivable that the human military's best traditional sniper looks like (and actually is, if I recall correctly) a dinky little hunting rifle. |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
The Barret light 50 and the crazyhorse m14 are not hunting rifles and the bolt action rifles the marines use are custom made by marine armorers. Or are you talking about the one in BW if so thats not a hunting rifle and if it is i wasnt aware. I dont see how my sniper looks like the one BW has already, mine is emi auto has a flash hider, is water cooled and the stock has a nice little club on the end and the grips and butt stock are made of wood. I cant see any similarities. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:40 am ] |
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Sargeant Smash wrote: The Barret light 50 and the crazyhorse m14 are not hunting rifles and the bolt action rifles the marines use are custom made by marine armorers. Or are you talking about the one in BW if so thats not a hunting rifle and if it is i wasnt aware.
I dont see how my sniper looks like the one BW has already, mine is emi auto has a flash hider, is water cooled and the stock has a nice little club on the end and the grips and butt stock are made of wood. I cant see any similarities. I was talking about the BW one. It isn't a hunting rifle exactly, but the manual says it was taken from a bird hunting rifle design. I looked up that M14 Crazy Horse thing, and I think I found the inspiration for the SRS900 Battle Rifle. 
The resemblance is uncanny! |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:49 am ] |
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It looks like it exactly, minus the fact it doesn't have a scope. But nice find. |
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| Author: | Kien [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:07 am ] |
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Sargeant Smash wrote: I dont see how my sniper looks like the one BW has already, mine is emi auto has a flash hider, is water cooled and the stock has a nice little club on the end and the grips and butt stock are made of wood. I cant see any similarities.
It's a SRS with a different model. >.> I see no need for this weapon. |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:22 am ] |
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Its differebnt from the srs. It only fires semi auto, slow rate of fire and the scope is different and it can be used as a club, plus it is water cooled. Plus the action is WAY different from the srs. The srs has an m14 action, mine has an ak sks hybrid action. Thats an m14 with a different stock but you are on the right track with it. Id like to get an m14 but them are expensive. 1500 when i saw em last |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
Mr.UglyPants wrote: It looks like it exactly, minus the fact it doesn't have a scope.
But nice find. The scope on the SRS attaches to the rails on the top of the weapon grip. |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
You mean on the forward handgaurd. Your right though. I dont think that full auto was good for that weapon because it fires a large cartridge in such a light rifle that the recoil was tremendous. I realy think that we should ditch the m16 series of rifles and go back to the m14. Any way moe on topic. Im gonna do another drawing of them and see what i get. |
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| Author: | Kien [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
It's still just another bullet rifle with not enough unique attribues IMO. If I have to press the button several times instead of keep pressing it doesn't matter too much does it? And what effect would the water cooling have in the game?? Only fluff effect since it can't be noticed by any way. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:48 am ] |
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Do you even know what you're talking about? We have 4 shotguns in this game, why not make a big deal about that, eh? What we don't have is a generic rifle with semi-auto firing. Not that matters if we did have one already, since this game isn't about having one gun of every type. Not every gun needs unique attributes. The RS guys someday hope to get around 60 (or more) guns into BW, and not all of them will have special properties. |
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| Author: | Kien [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:02 am ] |
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Sure thing. -_- I always disable 2 of the shotguns when i play against bots, along with the revolver and Mp5. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:39 am ] |
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Alright then. There you go. Your problem is solved. Don't you think you could do the same thing for something like this if it was ever added? 
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| Author: | Kien [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:30 am ] |
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I'm sure I could. It's just that I personally want weapons to be unique enough to be accepted. |
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| Author: | Sargeant Smash [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mk8 No9 and Mk8 No10 rifles |
You look at most rifles on the face of the planet and not much has actualy changed since the automatic action was made, many guns still have alot of the same parts the older versions had. Countries dont accept weapons for use based on how "Unique" they are, they accept them on how probable the weapon system is, you have to take many things into account when a gun is made, What kind of soldiers is it gonna see, the condition of combat all that stuff, they aint accepting it because it looks cool when it shoots or has cool sounds or because its "unique". Ive almost got another rough draft done. |
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