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| Author: | Strange_kid [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:54 am ] |
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I beleive that we as Ballistic weapons users are in desperate need of a mountable sniper rifle I.E : a high caliber one with a by-pod . Everyone post ther views . |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:23 am ] |
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Well i believe we have a sniper rifle that has a high caliber, but doesn't have a Bipod. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:59 am ] |
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It would be pretty fun to have a sniper that shoots immensely powerful rounds and needs to be mounted or you'll end up in a hospital. |
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| Author: | Strange_kid [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:53 am ] |
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Storm X wrote: Well i believe we have a sniper rifle that has a high caliber, but doesn't have a Bipod.
I know. The callibe thing is irrelevent ignore that part what i meant was we need a by-pod for the current sniper rifle. Do you guys think its feasable ? |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Bipod or not. It still sounds like the sniper rifle we have already. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:07 pm ] |
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Somehow I get the feeling storm x dose not like the idea of more snipers, but I have to agree we need more assault rifles first, after we get one or two more I can see a extra heavy jeep killing sniper with by-pod fitting in vary well, not replacing the rail gun just an alterative. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:15 pm ] |
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Storm X wrote: Bipod or not. It still sounds like the sniper rifle we have already.
What's your point? The strange kid is suggesting a bipod as an attachment to the current sniper, it won't involve creating a brand new weapon. And BW does not need more ARs, it needs more snipers. There are so many interesting ideas that can be used to make new brands and types. |
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:26 pm ] |
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What about one of those 5 feet long monsters? I saw Mythbusters use it. You can't own it because it's way too dangerous and you need a special license to just lend it. It'd be neat for ONS replacement of a turret if not a new weapon. |
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| Author: | OCAdam [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
I had an idea of one that is kinda like the 25MM sniper rifles Barrett makes. I guess I can post the idea in this topic rather than make a new topic for it... --- Name: LK5 25MM Anti-Armor Sniper Rifle Firestyles: Unmounted- firing the gun unmounted results in self-damage by about 10 health each shot due to the oversized recoil, and basically is useless to try using without a mounting. Mounted- mounted, the gun will have about the recoil of the M75 fully charged, but will actually not hurt you and allow for much better accuracy. Firing: when the LK5 is fired, a deafening boom obviously occurs (about the volume of M925, but with a more sniper rifle sounding blast), and the muzzle fire is about 60UUs long, and maybe 24UUs wide circular, but is a deep red color rather than the normal orange. The smoke is a silver color, but isn't any bit shiny, rather than a super light gray color. The smoke ends up shooting out of the barrel at first about 32UUs wide and 48UUs long, but then dissipates to leave a smoke trail that flows upwards for about 48UUs tall, while being a more normal 8 UUs wide vertically. Cocking: the LK5 has a special cocking mechanism that is performed automatically, but takes about a full second to do. First, the top of the gun flips open, and ejects the current shell straight up and off. Next, the gun recloses and the clip of the gun raises up a bit, where you can hear a shell being pushed forwards in the barrel, then raised up to the barrel. Finally, the gun will bring the hammer back into position where you can hear a small beep (think of a printer's beep), while a small red light turns on next to the shell release mechanism, signalling the trigger can be used again to fire once more. Reloading: When the gun has run out of ammo, a second flip-open slot appears and the current clip is shot off, where the flip-open part recloses, where the user then just pops a new clip into the bottom of the gun and lets the auto recock do its work. Overall Description: The LK5 is basically a medium sized (where the M75 is large and R78 is small) gun that has a similar look to the XK2, but with a much longer base area to have as a barrel. The top of the gun is completely open, with 2 ports to let shells and clips exit from. The area that this happens is raised up from the rest of the gun, but at the back contains an electronic scope that uses a camera to allow for scoping at the other end of this raised protrusion. The scope is able to support only 3X zooming, but can give a readout of current ammo in clip, range of the shot, elevation, if the gun is mounted or not, and estimated time before the bullet could hit the target (say 300 feet takes .2 seconds to hit). On top of that, a final ability of the scope is to have infra-red sensoring to allow for finding targets in the dark, but only if the weapon special is active (far range objects are hard to see just because of their red will blend with the environment's red at high ranges). The clip feeds straight into the bottom of the gun, like the R78, and is placed directly in front of the trigger guard. The gun contains no stock, but the front mounts allow for the gun to swivel a full 360, and about 25 degrees up, and 60 degrees downwards. The entire barrel cover is about 12UUs thick, although the barrel tip is uncovered and is 4UUs wide diameter. The distance of the barrel's full length is 56UUs long, and the end of the gun from there is another 16UUs, making a full length of 72UUs. Misc info: The LK5 carries a max of 5 ammo per clip, due to huge size of the bullets themselves, and no bullet on the clip actually extends from the top of the gun (unlike most conventional weaponry). The gun is a tripod mounted weapon that requires about 3 seconds to mount fully, as the mounting itself is separate from the gun, and a full animation is of how a mounting is placed where you are, and the mount is spun around on the gun to lock it to place (it clicks when locked), where you then are mounted. Unmounting the gun has a small button on the side of the mount and then the mount in spun the other direction, then taken away from the screen to simulate putting the mount up. Unmounting takes 4 seconds due to the need to hit the button on the side of the tripod mount. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Bjossi wrote: And BW does not need more ARs, it needs more snipers. ARs= M50 = 1 snipers= railgun + 50cal = 2 You lost me on the too many ARs bit Bjossi wrote: There are so many interesting ideas that can be used to make new brands and types.
I completely agree with you, besides saying no to a new gun is next to blaspheming the good name of RuneStorm in my book. |
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| Author: | Strange_kid [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Bjossi wrote: Storm X wrote: Bipod or not. It still sounds like the sniper rifle we have already. What's your point? The strange kid is suggesting a bipod as an attachment to the current sniper, it won't involve creating a brand new weapon. And BW does not need more ARs, it needs more snipers. There are so many interesting ideas that can be used to make new brands and types. And speaking of which i personaly think that the recoil on the M50 needs to be turned downa bit the accurasy improved ever so slightly because the m16 whicit is obviously based on uses 5.56mm rounds which have low recoil and are very accurate i know because im a cadet in the UK and i use these caliber rounds and the weapon handleing in the game isn't a all realistic . |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Dark_Watcher wrote: ARs= M50 + SRS = 2
snipers= 50cal = 1 You lost me on the too many ARs bit A railgun is not a sniper rifle. And you forgot the SRS AR. So I took the liberty of fixing your incorrect equations in the quote. |
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| Author: | Strange_kid [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Bjossi wrote: Dark_Watcher wrote: ARs= M50 + SRS = 2 snipers= 50cal = 1 You lost me on the too many ARs bit A railgun is not a sniper rifle. And you forgot the SRS AR. So I took the liberty of fixing your incorrect equations in the quote. LOL |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Well, you can say the railgun is a sniper weapon, but in my mind I see sniper rifles as guns that don't use electro-magnetic energy to speed up the projectile. So I'd personally place the railgun in the high tech category of BW rather than sniper rifles. My point still stands about the SRS900, naturally. You know, I think BW needs more of both ARs and sniper weapons, now that I think about it. The sniper category has a high tech weapon, now it is the ARs' turn. 
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
A73 Skrith Assault rifle. |
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| Author: | OCAdam [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
I see you guys totally just ignored my wall-o-text sniper rifle idea post. I am making a model of it right now in UEd (to a lot of you guys' disgust prolly). Heh... should be done soon.... It's not exactly too hard to make it. Edit: OMFG, this gun is very huge!!!! >_> That tripod is seriously necessary... |
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| Author: | uzi4u [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
KylinRage wrote: What about one of those 5 feet long monsters? I saw Mythbusters use it. You can't own it because it's way too dangerous and you need a special license to just lend it. It'd be neat for ONS replacement of a turret if not a new weapon.
You mean the Barret M82A1 that *only* California (maybe Illinois) has those restrictions upon? |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Before everyone else gets mad at me... Look in the XWI new weapon ideas. |
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| Author: | KylinRage [ Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Uzi4U wrote: KylinRage wrote: What about one of those 5 feet long monsters? I saw Mythbusters use it. You can't own it because it's way too dangerous and you need a special license to just lend it. It'd be neat for ONS replacement of a turret if not a new weapon. You mean the Barret M82A1 that *only* California (maybe Illinois) has those restrictions upon? Yeah, I think that's the one. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Guys The Rail Gun is a sniper rifle. I huge honkin' sniper rifle. It doesn't matter that it uses electromagnets instead of gunpowder. It's used for sniping, thus it's a sniper rifle. So we have for snipers: M75-TIC Rail Gun - REALLY POWERFUL. I just wish it was harder to use due to its insane damage. The penalties for using it (slow speed, recharge time, etc.) just aren't enough to balance it out. R78 Sniper rifle - Weaksauce, especially when it very often shoots the bullet 4 feet above where the crosshairs are pointing, even when scoped. This should really be fixed. Seriously, nobody I know uses this gun, as the Rail gun is just so much more effective. Assault Rifles: M50 Assault Rifle - Decent. Grenades don't have enough blast radius and range. A73 Skrith Rifle (Kinda maybe. It doesn't "feel" like an assault rifle since the projectiles move so slowly) Sniper/AR Hybrid: SRS900 Battle Rifle - Seriously, it's a little bit of both. It's not the best at either category, but it's not supposed to be. Just versatile. And for OC's Idea: We really don't need an anti-armor rifle. The M75 does that job perfectly, and you don't have to mount it. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
@ BJ SRS 900 = Battle Rifle =1 M50 = Assault Rifle =1 A73 = Energy Rifle =1 And in all fairness R78A1 = Sniper Rifle =1 M75-TIC = Railgun =1 So your point still stands: WE NEED MORE WEAPONS Witch I thank we should adopt as the official slogan of the RuneStorm community, either that or soon… |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Dark_Watcher wrote: @ BJ
SRS 900 = Battle Rifle =1 M50 = Assault Rifle =1 A73 = Energy Rifle =1 And in all fairness R78A1 = Sniper Rifle =1 M75-TIC = Railgun =1 So your point still stands: WE NEED MORE WEAPONS Witch I thank we should adopt as the official slogan of the RuneStorm community, either that or soon… We have 31 weapons. That's more than most games I believe. And what is all this nonsense about "SRS900=Battle Rifle" or "M75 = Rail Gun"? Are you saying that the SRS cannot be counted as an assault rifle because it's labeled a "Battle Rifle" or the M75 not a sniper because it's a "Rail Gun"? Are you saying that we need more than one "Assault Rifle" or "Rail Gun" or "Battle Rifle"? That's a pretty ridiculous way of looking at things. And adding weapons just for the hell of it isn't necessarily a good thing. You'll end up with pointless clones and an even more difficult balancing problem. EDIT: I know that there's a clear difference between an "Assault Rifle" and a "Battle Rifle", but seriously, semantics. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Aye, I agree. Battle Rifle s an assault rife. Sure, it has a bit different range of use, but its the same thing. Like wise for railguns and sniper rifles. As for too many guns, and start getting clones and stuff, in the end, will that really be too bad? I mean, there are clones of various guns in real life, it kinda adds a bit of authenticity to the game to see things like that, doesn't it? I think it does at least, at least if its implemented like how we can expect RS to implement them. But, when RS adds guns, they also add a story to them that gives them some character, they don't just feel simply like more guns, they feel like they're part of something more. I don't really know how to accurately describe what I'm trying to say... |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
What the hell would a battle rifle be other than an assault rifle? By the words 'battle rifle' we could call every single rifle in the mod a battle rifle. So naturally we put the SRS900 as an AR. Anything else would be stupid. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Before you start saying things are stupid, perhaps you should realize that calling the rail gun and the sniper rifle different types of guns is practically the same thing as saying a battle rifle and an assault rifle are different types of guns.
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| Author: | OCAdam [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Kaboodles wrote: And for OC's Idea: We really don't need an anti-armor rifle. The M75 does that job perfectly, and you don't have to mount it.
Honestly we don't truely need any more weapons at all, we already have tons, but still, it'd be cool to have new things anyways. This thing could be more of a base defense gun that takes out Leviathans in just 3 shots, but kills you if you didn't mount it ("Ophelia's arm was torn off by her LK5's recoil."). I just wanna see more weapons that are snipers. Along with more AR/BRs.... |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Captain Xavious wrote: Before you start saying things are stupid, perhaps you should realize that calling the rail gun and the sniper rifle different types of guns is practically the same thing as saying a battle rifle and an assault rifle are different types of guns.
Put your reading glasses on and check out my above speculation post about the sniper/rail argument. |
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| Author: | uzi4u [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Bjossi wrote: What the hell would a battle rifle be other than an assault rifle? By the words 'battle rifle' we could call every single rifle in the mod a battle rifle. So naturally we put the SRS900 as an AR. Anything else would be stupid.
Battle rifle employs a full rifle cartridge (IE, 7.62X51 NATO, or 7.62X54R, .303 British) Assault rifle employs an intermediate cartridge (IE 5.56X45 NATO, 7.62X39, 7.92X33) Sorry for contributing to this, but it really urked me. Sorry. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Good lord I thank I just started a war, and seeing as I don’t want to be blamed for any casualties, I’m dropping out of this tread. If this argument continues any further, X do me a favor and put the lockdown on this thread. My deepest and humblest apologies to SK and OCA who may have to bring there topics up agene at a better time. |
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| Author: | uzi4u [ Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sniper Rifle |
Dark_Watcher wrote: Good lord I thank I just started a war, and seeing as I don’t want to be blamed for any casualties, I’m dropping out of this tread. If this argument continues any further, X do me a favor and put the lockdown on this thread. My deepest and humblest apologies to SK and OCA who may have to bring there topics up agene at a better time.
Sorry man, we all have things that we have to respond to. |
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