AK-74M Assault Rifle + GP-30 Underbarrel Grenade Launcher + NSPU-3 Night Vision Scope + Bayonet

Parameters:
Fire Rate: 650 RPM
Ammo: 5,45mm / VOG-25P 40mm Grenades
Clip Size: 30 rounds / 1 Grenade
Firemodes: Full Auto, Semi Auto (real AK-74 has no burst fire mode)

Controls:
Primary Fire: Automatic Rifle Fire
Secondary Fire: Grenade Launch / Bayonet Attack (if attached)
Special: Attach/Detach Bayonet
Ironsights: Night Vision Scope

Weapon view in full assembly.


GP-30 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher.


NSPU-3 night vision scope.


<- Scope aim reticle

Ammunition:
<- 5,45x39 caliber rounds
<- VOG-25P 40mm jumping fragmentation grenade (after contact with ground jumps up like BX-5 mine and explode)

You dont scope an ak... The one in the pic is rather...outdated. Plus that is not the original caliber 5.45x39 is worse than our 5.56x45. 7.62x39 is the original caliber and is a MUCH better round, so much better in fact i hear the russians are going to switch back to it (YAY FOR RUSSIA!) The grenade launcher is a decent idea but if i had a 'nade launcher i would use that almost exclusivly over the bayonet.

I personaly think the switch to 5.45 was a bad move on the russians part.


Now thats what an ak should look like. (My personal romanian made semi auto)[br][img width=800 height=600]../../files/public/1202949242_201_FT52606_dscf0123_.jpg[/img][br]

I dunno, but I like the AK-74M better than the orig AK-47... I do agree, the grenade launcher is a lot more useful than a puny bayonet.

most nations dont realy use bayonets anymore. Most of the time they are used as a seperate tool. The ak 74 is in a terrible caliber (suprisingly good for squirrels) so bad in fact Mr. Kalashnikov was SUPER PI**ED off when they did it. Russian soldiers back in the late 80s were fighting the old ak47s in 7.62 when they had 5.45 and they did terrible with it. Yup some say afgahnistan was russia's vietnam.

- 5,45x39 is currently used caliber for AK-74, AK-74M, AKS-74U and many other modifications, this round has less firepower but more accuracy
- 7,62x39 is the old caliber for old AK-47 and new AK-103


In my idea Special Fire key attaches or detaches bayonet and switches Secondary Fire key to bayonet or GL. When bayonet attached you can't fire grenade launcher. To fire grenades you need to detach the bayonet like in real AK.

Well theres a reason they are switching back to 7.62, because even if you have greater accuracy your bullet has to have enough power to kill the target. Plus in the accuracy its not realy that much of a difference, it depends more on the rifle for the accuracy. During the production of the old ak47 the specs were always a little off but as years went by and they made the switch to ak74 tolerances got tighter making a more accurate weapon. Same goes for the ammo, old russian ammo wasnt realy made very well, but as years passed ammo specs got tighter as well. So i believe the new ak 103 will be just as accurate if not more so than the 74 series.

I like the idea of a bayonet, its just a shame the stock one with the ak is so puny.

the ak107 and the ak 108 have a system called BARS which increases the accuracy by applying counter recoil, or something like that...

I love the look of the AK-74M.

Hmmm.... Looking at that grenade launcher, wouldn't it be technically possible to fire it without attatching? Of course, that would likely result in a snapped/shattered wrist and a badly-aimed grenade flying to who-knows-where.

You could fire it with your hand, not recomended as you may recive an injury, not a snapped wrist though.

I heard of the new rifle russia is making and i dont even think its in the AK family, it does have a system where the receiver and barrel recoil together but in practice this makes the weapon more complicated, meaning more parts, and soldiers that are used to the rugged no nonsense ak family may be disappointed. Of course id need to get one of these new rifles and try it out before picking a side on it, but thats just my prediction.

The AN-94 Abakan?

Thats the name of it in stalker but it maybe the real name as well. I cant be 100% sure but i think basical its the same gun. Damn thing hjammed like 80 times in stalker almost got me killed.

Outfitted with a scope and grenade launcher, that gun was a beast.

In S.T.A.L.K.E.R. the AN-94 is called the Obokan. The Abakan is the actual spelling.

I usualy stuck with the g43 and the vintar silenced assault rifle, but when i grabbed the dragunov, that game was over baby!

Never did find a nade launchers to attach to my guns. Never found a good use for em.

I found grenade launcher attachments, but they didn't do enough damage to be worth it imo. I prefer just taking enemies out with headshots from a medium/long distance.

I'm just searching for a Thunder S14 in STALKER. It looks fun.

Plus, I am rather unsettled by the amount of gun-wielding forumites.

BUT, to the original post: I support the big scope idea. It adds an element of unreality that the weapon would require in order to get into BW.

AN-94 "Abakan"

Parameters:
Caliber: 5,45x39
Clip Size: 30 rounds
Fire Modes: Full Auto, 2-Round Fast Burst, Semi-Auto
Fire Rate: 600 RPM (in Full Auto mode) / 1800 RPM (in Burst Fire mode)

Read this for more info about this weapon




<- AN-94 + GP-30 Grenade Launcher

The Groza OC-14 was a great gun too. (That's the Thunder's real name.) It was definitely one of the stronger guns.

I like it when I use it against the bad guys, but when I'm the target it gets annoying...

So much weapon technicalities... Brain cannot comprehend...

Real AK74M parameters:
Fire Rate: 600 RPM (650 RPM-AKS74U)
AMMO:5.45x39\GP25 or GP25P (6G15,6G30)
I think the AK74 is the best without the optic and special nighvision scope.

Ithink the cobra is better then Optic.

The Groza OC-14 not great gun, because that have little fire range and this is modification of AKS74U. The OC-14 "GROZA" suck. AKM\AK47 IS BETTER.

Plain Ak-47 is the best, or the akm-47 same gun just easier to produce. I read a little more on the Abakan and it seems that its not gonna reach full military service, which i personaly think is for the best because from what i read the weapon is VERY complicated and it took the author of the article a very long time to get used to taking the weapon apart, its also not as ergonomic as the ak series. Economicaly changing to this rifle from the ak would be a very bad move. I think the designer of the weapon is onto a good idea, if he can just simplify it more to where a conscript soldier can take it apart easily. But specialist forces are adopting it from what i understand.

That is simplifying it way too much, the AKM (or AK-59) has many enhancements over the 47, important ones at that, even if the two models do look very similar.

The most obious one is ofcourse the Stamped reciver, the old milled reciver was never planned, and it was never a good idea either, the first AK-47's where actually produced with a 2 piece Stamped reciver with milled inserts, but the way they designed the thing was a big mistake, they didn't streangthen the Stamped part enough, so the two halves started coming apart when the gun was subjected to the hard reallity of beeing issued to conscripts.
To avoid the gun beeing a compleate failure, they had to act fast, and made an all milled reciver, as present on all 2'nd and 3'rd generation 47's.
But the cost and production time of that reciver was unacceptable to the USSR, so in the mid 1950's trials where held to find a replacement for the AK-47, so the AK had to be redesigned or it would have died, and they came up with the new Stamped reciver with internal milled inserts, this design was not only cheaper and faster to build, it was stronger and much lighter too, an AKM is allmost 1kg lighter than a 47.

But to beat the competition from the Korobov, a technically better rifle, the AKM would have to be even better still, so alot of things saw changes, the Bayonet lug was much improoved, a Recoil compensator was fitted to the muzzle, the front grips got new "Bulges" that gave a better grip on the weapon, the stock and stock assembly where improoved, so the stock was inline with the barrel greatly redusing felt recoil, and redundant little parts where done away with.

The AKM then is not only cheaper than the 47, it is lighter, stronger and has allmost half the recoil, it is much better in full-auto mode.
Despite all this, the Korobov TKB-517 was still a better rifle, but the AKM was a big enough improovement over the 47 that the USSR choose it as their new weapon, since troops would allready know how to strip, use and maintain it, and the design is still in mass production to this day, whereas the 47 is now only made as a semi-auto novelty to civilian shooters.


As for implimentation into BW, that giganto gen-2 night vision scope is a bad idea, if it must have any optics, and i'd prefer it didn't, then i would suggest modelling it on the PK-A red-dot scope, its modern and usefull, but unlike the Cobra, it still looks Soviet and AK'ish, having a look not too disimilar to the PSO-2 scope.

Something based on the AK-74M or the AK-103 would ofcourse make alot of sense, but i think most of us would really enjoy something that looks more like an AKM, AK's with wooden furniture just look right.
Perhabs an AKM with a 74 style Recoil compensator, and a 74 Bayonet.
Im not too sure about a GP-30 grenade launcher though, that would just make it too similar to the M-50 in my opinion, i'd much rather set it apart by giving it a 75 round Drum.

The first milled receiver being milled out of a solid block of steel is the strongest version, but it is far to costly as said before. The compensator realy isnt needed but it helps a little.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as74-e.htm I like that website too Grobut.

The gun shouldnt have a scope at all. Its not made for them.

A solid construction is only good to a certain point, exceed that point and you will have a catastropic failure, flexibillity is often stronger than brute streangth.
Another selling point for the Stamped reciver is ofcourse that it can be repaired, a worn down, siezed or cracked Milled reciver goes straight in the junk pile, but on a stamped one, you can drill out worn and damage inserts and replace them.

But i dont get my info from WorldGuns though, they have gotten things wrong too often in the past for me to put much stock in them, i do use it to look at pretty pictures though

Thing about russia is they never throw anything away. that milled receiver can be recycled buy remelting and making a whole new one.

Yeah i noticed that about Worldguns as well.

You know, just to be a little different, what about an AIMS or AIMS-74 style design? i have never seen an AIMS in a game or mod, ever.

Along thease lines perhabs:


The top one is a 7.62 AIMS with an AK-103 style barrel, 75 round Drum, PK-A red dot, and a 74 style bayonet, the bottom one a 5.45 AIMS-74 with an FDS-2 searchlight.

I like that idea alot! I think the scope and the 75 round drum can go but thats just me. The way you could make the drum mag work would be slow the player down when wielding it, but the scope would be kinda silly as the ak was made as a machine gun first then a rifle second. You could put the scope on the bottom one and the search light on the top one i think that would be pretty cool, then for the special make them both have folding stocks.

I was gonna get a romanian stock like the ones shown for mine because i heard that they work very well, but they run for about 40 bucks! I dont have a spare 40 bucks to spend on my Romak.