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Author:  Sargeant Smash [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:14 pm ]
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By me thats right, ive been having these awesome ideas and heres the next one... Ok so its just a redone m50.[br][img width=800 height=565]../../files/public/1203966862_201_FT0_m50sr_.jpg[/img][br]
Author:  SX [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:47 pm ]
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Cool.
Author:  Kien [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:25 pm ]
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Bah, if I will ever get enough time to learn ut2004 modding, I will make weapons that I like. :P
Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:57 pm ]
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That rifle butt looks like it's gonna bend. :D
Author:  Sargeant Smash [ Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:27 pm ]
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Yeah i was rather bored in class so i just decided to make an m50 like snipers rifle.

Im not makin these for you kien, im just trying to further my skills with maya. Which realy aint too bad once you get the basics.

I just wanted a funny looking buttstock on it lol.
Author:  Kien [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:57 am ]
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Maya isn't very good for hard edge modeling since it lacks decent snap functions and a few other things.
Author:  Sargeant Smash [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:14 pm ]
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Well i like me some maya. I dont know what hard edge modeling is, but it seems to work just fine. plus this is a thread about the gun not the program.
Author:  Kien [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:09 pm ]
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Hm oki... hard edge modeling is hard solid mechy shapes.

Isn't the gun having a little bit too many polygonus?
Author:  Kaboodles [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:31 pm ]
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Cool indeed. I've been fooling around with Maya PLE, but the interface frightens me. SO MANY BUTTONS! D:
Author:  siavash1989 [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:18 am ]
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i like it, have you considered putting the ammo clip in the butt or behind the trigger so we can get a bullpup? that would free up space for a grenade launcher, or even a second muzzle that shoots shotgun shells or even a small auto pistol for close range defense.
Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:58 am ]
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siavash1989 wrote:
i like it, have you considered putting the ammo clip in the butt or behind the trigger so we can get a bullpup?

Erm,look at it again and tell me honestly if putting the clip in the butt is actually a good idea. ;)
Author:  Share_The_Pain [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:15 pm ]
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Kien wrote:
Maya isn't very good for hard edge modeling since it lacks decent snap functions and a few other things.

It isn't very good for hard edge modeling if you don't know how to work your way around the program.

I learned modeling using Maya, I continued to use Maya, and I still use Maya. I tried Max and found it much simpler in terms of beginners, but I didn't find it as efficient (for lack of a better word). I almost never model organics, usually always man-made objects (hard edges) and I find the snapping functions in Maya to be quite adequate. Sure, there isn't a snap for everything I need, but I know how to quickly and efficiently get around it.

P.S. Since this thread is about the gun, I thought I better say something about it.....

Looking good! :D
Author:  siavash1989 [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:32 pm ]
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the butt can BE the clip, like the bullets are inside the butt.
Author:  Kien [ Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:29 pm ]
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share_the_pain wrote:
Kien wrote:
Maya isn't very good for hard edge modeling since it lacks decent snap functions and a few other things.

It isn't very good for hard edge modeling if you don't know how to work your way around the program.

I learned modeling using Maya, I continued to use Maya, and I still use Maya. I tried Max and found it much simpler in terms of beginners, but I didn't find it as efficient (for lack of a better word). I almost never model organics, usually always man-made objects (hard edges) and I find the snapping functions in Maya to be quite adequate. Sure, there isn't a snap for everything I need, but I know how to quickly and efficiently get around it.

It lacks midpoint snap which is the second most used snap, if want to place something in the middle of an edge, the only way I know is to add an edge loop in the middle just so you can snap to it's vertices, which is a really stupid way.

Also maya can't snap from different components, it can only snap from the objects pivot point which means if you have a box and want to place the corner of it at another object you must snap the pivot to the corner vertex and the move it. How often do you want to snap from the pivot? Almost never. In max you can even snap from components from other objects.

Also maya does not have 2D snap, which is the snap you use 95% of the time, you have to move the object along 1 axis at a time which takes double the time. However the max 3D snap isn't very good, while maya's is perfect. Max also has a who bunch of snaps specific for NURBS which is quite strange that maya doesn't since it's very good for NURBS modeling while max is not.

Another thing is the lack of autogrid as far as I know. All new created objects are created aligned to the world axis with Y coordinate 0. In max you can create and at the same time align a new object at the face you are pointing at, which is quite useful.

Another (very stupid) issue in maya is that you can not see an objects world coordiantes, nor can you give it new, you can only change the objects local coordinates.

From what I know, it's a little bit pain in the ass to fix you so can work from another objects local axis.

Working with simple splines instead of NURBS is prefered most of the time, which maya does not have.

If you know how ways to make these things in maya, tell me.
Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:07 am ]
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siavash1989 wrote:
the butt can BE the clip, like the bullets are inside the butt.

You've missed the point boyo.Really,look again,how's the ammo going to get into the chamber?
Author:  Sargeant Smash [ Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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Bullpups are way to over engineered for my tastes in firearms, siavash1989 look up how a gun actualy works and then think about it for a little while. Plus its a sniper's rifle why would i want a shotgun or a grenade launcher on it? That would degrade the accuracy, and upset the harmonics of the barrel.Anything that touches the barrel affect the harmonics of the barrel, Thus the weapon must be sighted in to take these affects into account.

and like shadowbump pointed out, how the in the crap would that work? the butt stock being the Clip? Thats just a silly idea.
Author:  siavash1989 [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:17 am ]
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SHAD0Wdump wrote:
siavash1989 wrote:
the butt can BE the clip, like the bullets are inside the butt.

You've missed the point boyo.Really,look again,how's the ammo going to get into the chamber?



touche, i didnt realize they weren't really connected. in any case, a small machine pistol for close quarters defence under the barrel wont do any harm if its not firing.
Author:  SHAD0Wdump [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:43 am ]
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I'm not touchy,I'm just pushing your buttons,I mean... Look at that thing. :D
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:23 pm ]
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Nice stuff. So its a full auto sniper rifle?
Author:  Sargeant Smash [ Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:45 pm ]
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No its not full auto, semi only. Caliber 7.7x58mm Steel jacketed lead core ammo. Pretty simple, its got a slower rate of fire than the rest of the rifles, and the power is a little bit greater than that of the ranger rifle. Im gonna defintely rework the rear stock.
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