We need more of them. Four and a half shotguns just don't cut it in a game. I'm sorry, but it doesn't.

Plus, you know, there isn't the classic demon slaying break open shotgun for us all to enjoy.

Thats why I propose not one, but THREE! Thats right, 3 (!) break open double guns.

Why, you may ask?

Why does a a tiger have stripes? Why is the sky blue? Who knows? Who cares?

Right then, we need 3 double guns.

First off, your classic 12-gauge coach gun and it's lil' brother, the sawed-off 12-gauge coach gun.

A coach gun was originally used to do just as you might suspect, protect stage coaches back in the old west (hence the term, "riding shotgun"). Nowadays they make plum dandy home defense weapons.

"But what makes a coach gun different than any other shotgun?"

Not much, really. Its pretty much a side-by-side break open shotgun, but with shorter barrels than your typical shotgun. The shortened barrels (probably around the range of 18 to 22 inches) make the gun easier to maneuver on the coach (and in your very own home), which would be pretty handy when a group of bandits try to surround you.

Good for general purpose medium-short range combat.

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The sawn-off variant is just the same, only with a cut down stock and shortened barrels.

Good for pretty much just short range encounters.

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Now for the grand daddy of them all; the 10-gauge double gun.

AKA The God Hammer

This thing is freakin' big. Long barrels make it cumbersome in close quarters, but those long barrels and some sort of fancy choke configuration make this thing surprisingly useful at long ranges. Like, Deermaster ranges. Or beyond.

And no, you won't get a scope on it. Pansy. Don't you dare ask me that again.

And they all would be given the gift of sturdy wooden stocks. So in other words, those fancy things work as clubs too.

Alright, so what do you all think?




Too bad. Your opinion doesn't change my agenda

I particularly like the ten gauge...

What About Over/Under Double Barrel Shotgun?

And why are you mean today?

Jokes.

Side by Side DB shotgun is nice. I Likes Over/Under DB Shotgun.

one of my friends would say because god wants

And lets not forget the tri-barrel

Eh, I like over/under too, but I dunno, side-by-sides just have that classic look to them, that look that tells evil monsters that you mean business.

NO!

Make it a Drilling, or as Scorpion_SK suggested it, The Combination Gun. Maybe even a vierling.

As for the "Coach Gun", wouldn't the MRS138 fill that position? It doesn't exactly have a "Wild West" look to it, but it's pretty much designed for confined spaces.

Instead, why not go for an automatic? I'm sure Sgt.Kelly would very much appreciate a fancy custom model for his M781.


EDIT: Oh, wow. Way to not read the OP. He wants 3 break-open double-shotguns, not 3 double-shotguns period.

That's just nuts man. We'd end up with 5 double-barreled shotguns. We only have 3 single-barreled shotguns, and one of them is attached to a pistol.

If these awesome devices are going to be made then make it have faster firing rate than the pump shotguns because the pump shotguns have sloooowwww firing rate.

Heh I know why...
Sky's blue cuz light bounces off it, sky's red or orange in morning and evening cuz light comes from different angle and has to go trough more Air Molecules before reaching your eyes.
Tigers have stripes cuz their fur grows like that

But yeah, some more shotguns will be fun.

I want some more Assault Rifles too xD

I just knew someone was gonna say why the sky was blue.

And, as I already stated, Kaboodles, your opinion doesn't change my agenda.

As for a combination gun... I like the idea of them, but that means, like, another double barrel break open. I'm cool with that, but it'd take a bit more time to model out.

And the MRS138 doesn't fill the same role as a coach gun. Let me explain why. Is it a double barreled break open shotgun? No?

Well, there you go.

And automatic isn't on my agenda. You just keep wanting more shotguns don't you? You'd think it'd be enough at 7.5 (the WIlson's shotgun could only really count as a half), but nooo... Kaboodles wants even MORE!

Hard to go wrong with more shotguns, actually.

As for firing rates, its hard to say yet, but the 10 gauge is going to have a slower fire rate than the others, but past that, I'm not really sure.

And yeah, I agree with Bulska, more ARs would be nice, but I think more Rifles in general would be good too.

Oh, and by the way...
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So you want it to be a shotgun mod? :S With this many shotungs you expect a similar amount in all the other weapon categories. How poor would not a break open gun be compared to the others? 2 shots fired ouch I have to reaload.

The only thing I miss is an high tech burst auto one. And slugs for the one that you can bash with.

Over and under weapons are so pretty. :3


Those are nice looking. But so incredibly heavy I bet, not to mention rare. I even heard that there might be 1 or 2 fünflings in the world.

Here is a swedish article with pictures of a vierling.
http://webnews.textalk.com/se/article.php?id=310650

Maybe someone wants that to happen sometime.



Semi auto would be fun, and I'd love to add slugs to the shotguns, but I know I would just hate having slugs available for some of the guns but not for others that should be able to have them too.

But, those are things that are rather low on my list of things to do. Maybe some day.

And which one are you referring to that can bash? I plan to have all mine able to bash.



I personally think side-by-side shotguns look prettier, but I'm gonna see about an over and under sometime, because they do look rather nice too.



I need to look into those some time. But I'll tell you now I plan to have the 10 gauge look like a piece of art. It'll have engravings along the barrels and receiver... it'll look nice, hopefully.

If anyone wants to send some pics of those my way any time, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Oh, wow, those things are beautiful. Thats more or less how I had my 10 gauge planned on looking like.


As for how a break open compares to the other shotguns, well, maybe its not for everyone, but I generally only fire a few shots with the shotguns before reloading anyways. Plus, one thing about the tube fed shotguns, is that it takes forever to reload them fully anyways, and you can chew through that ammo pretty fast and then you need to reload again.

With a break open, you will be a little more tempted to take a bit better aim before firing, and you can reload it fully quite quickly compared to the tube fed shotguns. Plus the 10 gauge will not be something you'll want to be taking a lot of shots with anyways, its more or less a two shot sniper rifle.

Anyways, I just like break open shotguns better.

Maybe that player's favorite in Deltra Force, an M4 with a shotgun mounted under the barrel instead of an M203.

What?

I'm lost. Whats an under slung shotgun got to do with a double barrel break open shotgun?

The topic title "MOAR SHOTGUNS!!!1!" is inviting me to post any ideas on new weaponry regarding BW.

Oh well i must've misunderstood.

Yeah, I was just talking about 3 shotguns I was working on. Sorry about the confusion.

Why the other two though? I fully support the big 10-gauge (though an additional rifle barrel would be very much welcomed), but the smaller ones I'm iffy about.

For one the sawed-off gun sounds exactly like the MRT6, only slower to fire. I don't see much of a point in the Coach gun either. Perhaps as an over/under gun, with one barrel having a tighter choke than the other, it might be interesting. But as a break-action M290? Not really.

Well, let me break down my reasoning.

I FREAKIN' WANT A COACH GUN AND ACCOMPANYING SAWN OFF VARIANT. FOR MYSELF.

Now, any more questions?

As for a more complete break down, I want a long range shotgun. Simple enough. And I like break open side-by-sides. I think that makes it pretty clear on how the God Hammer concept came to be.

Then I thought about the classic sawn-off shotgun, and realized the MRT6 just isn't the same.Granted, it's pretty much superior to one, but it isn't the same. Mainly its just for the sake of having a classic sawn-off in BW.

Now, I knew I wouldn't be using the 10 gauge all that much, and the sawn-off isn't useful in all applications, nd I just loved the idea of making a double barrel break open my primary weapon. The thing is, I just don't like the feel of a double pump gun, and neither of the two double guns I conceptualized would be good for all around demon slaying, like in good old Doom 2, so why not bring the sawn-off to a 12 guage, and make a full version of it? The idea of having a sawn-off without its full version didn't seem right to me. And I wanted a double barrel as my primary weapon.

You don't suppose them to be more powerful than the m290 right? That thing is crazy enough. Kabloodles calculated ~600 damage at point blank.

Well, the 12-gauge shotguns would ideally do the same damage as the other double barreled 12-gauges.

This actually brings up another problem for me. The MRT6 and M290 are currently pretty broken as is.

You know, the more I think about it, your Coach gun ideas are pretty much what I think the M290 and MRT6 should have been in the first place.

Um... ok. That means you now have 100% backing of my idea then, I'll assume. Sweet.

I wouldn't go that far now...

I actually take the MRT6 part back. It's a neat gun, the numbers are just a little excessive. The M290 is bleh, though.

If your plan for the 10bore was to make it all etched with suitable 'countryside' scenes, it sounds like the 12bores will be quite plain looking. That got me thinking, why not merge them, so that the barrels and stock are detachable. This leaves you with 2 guns in one: sawn off and normal.

Well, I wouldn't say the 10 gauge will have "countryside" scenes, but it will be etched and the like.

But merge what? The coach gun and the sawn-off?

I'd say no. Too complicated. Just two guns, no need for fancy features, just two simple guns. Besides, whats a sawn-off with a full stock on it? Whats a coach gun with a chopped down stock?

No, merging them would be a bad idea.

Has anyone found a proper picture on a fünfling? :3 I can not gind any. :<

you are making a mod or just suggesting your idea?

Both.

There needs to be a 20 gauge.