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| Author: | [HSP]SoniX*NL* [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | S-06 "Tempest" Railgun |
Yeah, I know, guns never really get made, but hell, I thougt that I'd share it anyway. ^^ A spam-ish weapon, perfect for clearing out buildings fast. Doesen't do that many damage, but consecutive hits can take down even the heaviest of enemies. The weapon itself has a square construction, instead of all the round stuff, that most guns have. Firing the gun will just look awesome, for both you and your enemies. Imagine, you're walking around in a building, with your shotgun ready to blast out any enemy. Suddenly, you just see blue lines flying from wall-to-wall in front of you, behind you, and just above you. You'd be like, "OMGWTF", then get hit and die.
Sights: Optical Enhancement Attachment, that puts little G5-scope-like boxes around people, Making them easier to see, but the surroundings are blue-tinted. Firemodes: Single shot only, due to the Prim/Sec fire functions Primary-Fire: Accurate, powerfull single shot, slow recharge Secondary-Fire: InAccurate, less powerful slinge, fast recharge Ammunition: Infinite, thanks to a self-sustaining energy core in the weapon. The self-sustaining energy core provides an almost unlimited ammount of ammunition, But is very fragile and easy to overload... So, uncarefull use will cause your gun to, what we call, "Go Boom." Special: Eject core. The core will follow the nozzle of the gun, and will cause a small plasma storm where it lands, burning everything thats near. If a second core is aquired (Pick up a new gun), you can load it in the gun by manually opening the core chamber. This takes a while though! (Reload ^^) When the core "Goes boom", it doesen't just kill you. It's a bit of a lightning-gun-ish explosion, killing people near you too. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | S-06 "Tempest" Railgun |
Railguns fire a dense, solid projectile using magnetics. I'm not sure how a "self-sustaining core" would be able to generate solid matter. |
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| Author: | [HSP]SoniX*NL* [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:35 pm ] |
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hax? |
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| Author: | SHAD0Wdump [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:01 pm ] |
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Perhaps warp the matter in from another dimension? |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:22 pm ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: Railguns fire a dense, solid projectile using magnetics. I'm not sure how a "self-sustaining core" would be able to generate solid matter.
I wondered the same thing after reading the ammo part. He seems to think that railguns fire pure energy, with no solid matter involved. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:44 pm ] |
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I thought energy could somehow be transmuted to matter, though I also seem to remember some sort of cataclysmic happening related to such an event... |
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| Author: | potvin121 [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:21 pm ] |
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yay big boom |
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| Author: | Kien [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:16 am ] |
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For a long time I thought railguns fired energy beams. I never saw any projectile in Quake 2. Just a pretty spiral shaped beam thing.
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| Author: | Eat Uranium [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:08 am ] |
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I used to think rail guns shot lengths of railway track... Anyway, energy can be 'turned' into matter, but you get very little out compared to what you put in: the 1st nuclear bomb converted just under 1/2 kg of mass to energy. Thus the energy from a nuclear bomb will get you about 500g. |
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| Author: | Sgt. Kelly [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:17 am ] |
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And matter can be turned into energy as well! When an electron hits a positron, they anihilate each other and create gamma rays.
Though I severely doubt that a small handheld fusion core like this one has enough power to turn anything into matter. |
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| Author: | SHAD0Wdump [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:25 am ] |
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Remember though,railguns fire projectiles at extreme velocities,even a very tiny mass can have the impact of a cannonball. |
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| Author: | Kien [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:27 am ] |
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Sgt. Kelly wrote: When an electron hits a proton, they anihilate each other and create gamma rays.
You be thinking of positron.
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:07 pm ] |
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SHAD0Wdump wrote: Remember though,railguns fire projectiles at extreme velocities,even a very tiny mass can have the impact of a cannonball.
This power source would have to somehow provide enough energy to generate a sufficiently large mass and propel it to a sufficiently high speed. The smaller your mass, the faster you have to propel it to deliver the same kinetic energy. Your mass would also have to be harder and denser than your target. |
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| Author: | Eat Uranium [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:12 pm ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: Your mass would also have to be harder and denser than your target.
Not necessarily, anything with enough kinetic energy behind it will damage something. Hardness and density just lower the energy and velocity required. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:29 pm ] |
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Well if you want to be able to penetrate walls with it, it helps if your projectile doesn't disintegrate on contact
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| Author: | Sgt. Kelly [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:52 pm ] |
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Kien wrote: Sgt. Kelly wrote: When an electron hits a proton, they anihilate each other and create gamma rays. You be thinking of positron. ![]() Whoops. I typed the wrong one.
That combo would make a neutron. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:31 pm ] |
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Wouldn't something too small, with enough velocity, just kinda pass through the body without ccausing excessive collateral damage? I mean, there wouldn't be much mass displaced from the impact or the vacuum created behind it, and if it was going fast enough to pass through solid matter quite effectively, wouldn't that just leave you with just a tiny lil' hole in you? I seem to remember something of a similar principal in early space missions, where tiny streaks of light were seen, passing through ship and astronaut alike, but the particles were going so fast and were so tiny there was relatively little resistance, and no harm was actually done. I need to read up on that more to say anything with full confidence on the subject, though. It seems like resistance would be the key thing causing damage at these speeds. Hell, even with regular ballistics rounds, you're typically better off if the round passes through you, assuming its not some sort of expanding tip variant. Considering again that railgun rounds pass through walls without disintigrating, I just never got why they would do so much damage to fleshy targets, unless the round was really big to create a large vacuum. |
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| Author: | Eat Uranium [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:43 am ] |
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I think the hole + the large vacuum effect would do the killing. Sgt. Kelly wrote: Kien wrote: Sgt. Kelly wrote: When an electron hits a proton, they anihilate each other and create gamma rays. You be thinking of positron. ![]() Whoops. I typed the wrong one. That combo would make a neutron. Your thinking of beta plus decay, where an up quark gains energy and turns into a down quark giving off a neutrino and a positron. An electron with enough energy to overcome the electromagnetic force and hit a proton will either bounce off a quark or smash the proton to pieces. |
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| Author: | [HSP]SoniX*NL* [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:04 am ] |
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Okay, you owned the hell outta me there. I don't really know any stuff bout physics nor weaponry. Just an idea that came to mind, and railgun just sounds good.
You can give the gun any name you want.
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| Author: | Kien [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:25 am ] |
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Cinnamon roll gun. :3 |
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| Author: | raziel [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:15 am ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: Railguns fire a dense, solid projectile using magnetics. I'm not sure how a "self-sustaining core" would be able to generate solid matter.
Could energy be turned into a solid object, if not then don't forget its called UNreal
Raziel P.S only just saw the thread |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:58 am ] |
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Raziel wrote: Could energy be turned into a solid object, if not then don't forget its called UNreal
![]() Raziel P.S only just saw the thread I suppose it could, but I imagine that would require enough energy to power a small country. Or destroy it. Whichever. I don't believe that a game's name is at all relevant to the discussion. For example, the games in the Final Fantasy series are all fantastic (in the sense that they are excellent and based on fantasy), but there is nothing particularly "final" about them. |
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| Author: | Beta_krogoth [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:53 pm ] |
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I'm afraid a self stataining energy core is impossible by our knowledge at this currect time. Energy can nor be created, nor destroyed. Which in a way is kinda sad because is this is true then we finite amount of energy to use, A massive amount which we will never get through, yet still finite... Anyhow, as far as we know now, it is not possible to create self sustaining cores, we can have very densely packed coers that store a lot of energy, but not self sustaining ones. And also generating a mass from energy is a bit like saying "I'm gonna turn this piece of wood into a much bigger piece of wood without using any means whatsoever" Off topic a min, is 15km per second fast in terms of the speed of bullets? |
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| Author: | SHAD0Wdump [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:08 pm ] |
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How about sucking the energy out of different dimensions? Just one of my crazy ideas. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:10 pm ] |
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Even if that were possible, the amount of energy required to power this thing would be better used some other way. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:31 pm ] |
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Captain Xavious wrote: Wouldn't something too small, with enough velocity, just kinda pass through the body without ccausing excessive collateral damage? I mean, there wouldn't be much mass displaced from the impact or the vacuum created behind it, and if it was going fast enough to pass through solid matter quite effectively, wouldn't that just leave you with just a tiny lil' hole in you?
Correct. Though there is still a good chance the slug would go through an important organ. One could also create a slug that is meant to not go right through you, but instead transform the energy of it's movement to the target upon impact, making you fly backwards in other words. That is pure speculation though, I don't know how possible it would be with the speed of railgun slugs. A slug like that would probably need to be thin and have a decent surface area so the hit gets leveled out on a bigger area of the target. As for energy and matter, Einstein's theory of general relativity suggests that matter can be transformed to energy, but I haven't heard it being possible the other way around. I'm not going to dismiss it though. |
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| Author: | SHAD0Wdump [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:46 pm ] |
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Kaboodles wrote: Even if that were possible, the amount of energy required to power this thing would be better used some other way.
Not if you tap the right dimension,if there is a infinite number of dimentions spanning every possibility imaginable,then just tap a universe with a non lethal/detrimental/life sustaining material,that is completely full of this matter. So your not harming anything living,and have a enormous abundance of energy that would easily pay for any costs of opening the dimensional vortex several times over. If there isn't a infinite amount of dimensions then oh well. |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:29 pm ] |
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SHAD0Wdump wrote: Kaboodles wrote: Even if that were possible, the amount of energy required to power this thing would be better used some other way. Not if you tap the right dimension,if there is a infinite number of dimentions spanning every possibility imaginable,then just tap a universe with a non lethal/detrimental/life sustaining material,that is completely full of this matter. So your not harming anything living,and have a enormous abundance of energy that would easily pay for any costs of opening the dimensional vortex several times over. If there isn't a infinite amount of dimensions then oh well. This doesn't make any sense. So you're saying not only does a compact, man-portable weapon contain a means to convert energy to matter and propel this matter to very high speeds, but it also contains some kind of portal to an infinite number of dimensions that it can draw energy from? |
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| Author: | zer0 [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:31 pm ] |
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what if there was in the future some kind of sigularity energy core that could create vast amounts of energy in a short period of time but is very unstable? Experimental Energy Cores? |
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| Author: | Kaboodles [ Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:11 pm ] |
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If there were, and it was small enough that it could be fitted in a hand-held weapon, there would be many far better uses for it than this
Furthermore, if they were so unstable, I highly doubt you'd see it in use in a soldier's rifle. Nothing makes a weapon less appealing than the potential to blast you apart, and considering the energy involved, everything else around you. |
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