I'm all for demon slaying equipment.
Needs some refinement, but it is something I wouldn't mind working with in the unforeseeable future at some point.
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:35 pm ] |
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Early? I know, but I wanted to make a gun based on holy water. "Sin" Revolver Primary: Fires a .44 magnum W/Holy Water bullet tip to release the devil in you, or just burn you really badly. Damage:Impact- 45-50 Holy Water- .5-1 for 5 seconds Alt: Fires the same bullet, but now it's temperature is at 300 degrees (That's 572 degrees Fahrenheit!) Which is increases damage, but the holy water is evaporated faster. Damage: 60-80 Special- It fires a .44 magnum round, nothing special, the holy water has been sucked dry and is still powerful. Damage: 40- 55 Story- During development of "Loewe" SX had thought of putting Holy Water in bullets, but due to the way the D49 was made, he couldn't use the modified .44 magnum bullets in Loewe, but he did have a spare revolver that was made for holy water bullets, so he started to make the latest in Anti Demon Weaponry, The "Sin" Revolver. The first modification is the bullet output, it fires .44 magnum with holy water bullets which can damage the person if hits the person or if it barely nicked him since the holy water casing is shattered if something hits it. But it's very weak compared to the D49. The second modification is the Superheated "Hell" Charger, which strikes the bullet at 120 degrees Celsius, but the holy water is lost, due to the very fast evaporation. If you don't like either of them, you can use the old way of killing people, a plain .44 magnum round. Ammo- 6 bullets, 66 overall Death Messages- Primary: SX released Xan's Sins, but killed him in the process. Xan's face is purified thanks to SX's revolver. Xan screamed, but SX didn't listen as he was releasing sins. Alt: Ouch, Xan got hit with a very hot bullet If you hear high pitched screaming, it's Xan getting in the crotch with a 120 degree bullet. Xan's Head exploded with a super heated bullet by SX's revolver. Special: Xan lost his lunch due to SX's gun SX popped a .44 magnum round into Xan's head. Xan lost his manhood by SX. Suicide: Xan performed self exorcism. (Primary) Xan Shot himself with a "Hell" Bullet (Alt) Made By Malmida at Deviant Art. [br][img width=800 height=624]../../files/public/1216326933_304_FT0_the_beast_by_malmida_.jpg[/img][br] |
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| Author: | LuminousShadow [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:08 pm ] |
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I just have to say that I love the design man, and I also like the ideas |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Ye Olde Holy Water Gun |
I'm all for demon slaying equipment.
Needs some refinement, but it is something I wouldn't mind working with in the unforeseeable future at some point. |
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| Author: | SX [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | XWI- Ye Olde Holy Water Gun |
Just tell me, and i'll make 'em. |
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| Author: | Share_The_Pain [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:55 pm ] |
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6000 degrees Celsius? That is more than enough to melt diamond. Suffice to say that the bullet, if not even the gun, would melt in an instant. Besides, to heat the bullet up to that temperature would require insane amounts of energy that this gun model simply doesn't look like it could possibly supply. Damages seem kinda high too. I'm seeing no point in using primary fire which would do a maximum of 55 damage, when the min damage on the secondary is 60. Cool concept, but would need some refining to make it more realistic, and balanced in a game. |
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| Author: | WarbornEmo [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:35 am ] |
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i like this! |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:34 am ] |
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share_the_pain wrote: 6000 degrees Celsius? That is more than enough to melt diamond. Suffice to say that the bullet, if not even the gun, would melt in an instant.
Besides, to heat the bullet up to that temperature would require insane amounts of energy that this gun model simply doesn't look like it could possibly supply. Damages seem kinda high too. I'm seeing no point in using primary fire which would do a maximum of 55 damage, when the min damage on the secondary is 60. Cool concept, but would need some refining to make it more realistic, and balanced in a game. The Whole Gun is modified to take the heat, even the .44 magnum bullets. There is a mini heat charger in the gun that can heat to the 6000 degrees |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:33 pm ] |
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SX wrote: The Whole Gun is modified to take the heat, even the .44 magnum bullets.
So the gun is made of metals that can stay solid under that temperature? I imagine the gun would be awfully heavy to hold. Well, it is either that or changing natural laws to your preference, no "gun modification" is gonna bring up the temp tolerance that easily. There is one chemistry-related equation that allows heat tolerance increase (some kitchen gear uses this fun ability) when pressure is upped, but that only works for chemicals in gas and liquid form. as far as I can remember. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:44 pm ] |
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Well, it's the future in BW, I'm pretty sure there may be a metal that's light enough to hold and absorb the heat. Eh, so does anyone like it or no? |
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| Author: | Sgt. Kelly [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:01 pm ] |
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So the gun is made out of a material that is harder than diamond but as light as a feather? I'd recommend just toning the temp down to something more plausable, like... 100 degrees Celsius. That trigger looks painful, by the way. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:39 pm ] |
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... Fine. Can't change the trigger though. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:50 pm ] |
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100 celcius is a tad too low imo, I'd go for 200 or 300. Still low enough to be reasonable while giving a much bigger number to make the weapon feel nastier in action. 
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| Author: | Redshift [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:12 pm ] |
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The gun itself looks frickin cool, but stuff like holy water bullets would require some sort of class/species system to really be useful or make sense. Which would be a good thing to have, anyway... Maybe it could be done fairly easily with some kind of mut. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:12 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: 100 celcius is a tad too low imo, I'd go for 200 or 300. Still low enough to be reasonable while giving a much bigger number to make the weapon feel nastier in action.
ah, but in Fahrenheit, it's 284 degrees. But if you wants. Also, what is "IMO"? |
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| Author: | SHAD0Wdump [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:56 pm ] |
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In My Opinion. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:57 pm ] |
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Oh. thanks. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:01 pm ] |
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Alright, ideas for refinement. Like RedShift addressed, your typical Holy Water isn't often potent enough to hurt your regular mortal. Keep it holy, thats a good touch, but it needs something more. Perhaps some sort of holy chemical brew that sears the flesh? Or an evil version that does an accelerated for of necrosis on the flesh... Or another idea, which I personally like, would be to have some sort of nanites suspended in Holy Water. The nanites destroy organic matter, but have some sort of IFF in it that is capable of regenerating tissue of wounded team mates. So that would equal primary fire doing the initial damage from impact, and the residual effects of the Holy Water deals continual damage like the original plans, or if used on a team mate, deals the regular damage from initial impact, but the continued damage instead heals team mates. Alt fire would be the same though, as burning liquid on your face is still burning liquid. Persecuting the undead and healing teamates with the same weapon! Woo! I think the holy water bottle needs a lot more refinement though, and it needs to be a new grenade, not just an offhand attack type of thing. TRhat model was made in CAD Key or something like that, wasn't it? Would it be possible for your friend to send it to me? I can either use it as 3d reference or as a base model, and it would certainly make the possibility of this gun being made a whole lot more real.
All I'd really need is just more pics of it at various angles, I'd prefer to make my own model of this, as the current model looks pretty sweet, but it also looks like it was made for aesthetics, not functionality. I'd like to change that, but I feel more comfortable making my models from scratch. Angles I'd need: Orthographic views of the top, the side, the bottom, the front, and the back. Some more perspective views would be nice too. |
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:45 pm ] |
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Ok, answering time. As you said, the holy water SX used does have nanites in them to create searing pain, but still is holy enough to be called holy water. Healing team mates, I may do, but i dunno Alt fire may be changed, question is, what do I replace it with? I'll ask Malmida to see if you can use his model. It's made in Autocad 02. Holy water bottle, I absolutely have to make an offhand attack because it's will not work on it's own. |
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| Author: | Captain Xavious [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:07 pm ] |
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Well yes, of course the Nanite brew would be holy, thats a given. I think the healing of team mates could be pretty sweet, gives it an unusual twist based off the holy aspect. No idea for Alt fire though. I don't necessarily need to use his model, I'd just like some more pics, but the model would be nice too. Holy water bottle? Oh hell, give me a few days and I can create some standalone weapon. Already had an idea for a holy, thrown weapon that unleashes a searing, divine light. Perhaps this idea could be tweaked a bit to incorporate holy water or something. See, I'd kinda like to sometime make a loadout of weapons for some sort of Purifying Squad of a divine order, wiping out biological enemies and weapons with cleansing flame and holy water. I think this weapon would be the perfect sidearm for them. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:16 am ] |
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SX wrote: ah, but in Fahrenheit, it's 284 degrees. But if you wants.
I was talking about 200 - 300°C, I guess it isn't as obvious as I had thought. |
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| Author: | Matz [ Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:59 pm ] |
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Ive got an idea for a alt fire death message: Xan screamed and writhed in agony as matz shot a red hot bullet up his arse!!! |
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| Author: | thetrunkmonkey [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:40 pm ] |
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that gun looks pretty badass 
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| Author: | Glosmostinex [ Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:10 pm ] |
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Holy Wine... Blood of christ. since put alcohol directly in the enemies blood, enemies can become drunk 
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| Author: | SX [ Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:47 pm ] |
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BUMP: I apologize. I changed the special to something else. Xavious: Did you ever get that pic, Malmida said you can use it. |
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