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Author:  Sgt. Kelly [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:23 am ]
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I heard that Ballistic is going to be including more simple weapons in the next few versions of the mod. So I'd like to add some weapon ideas to the bottomless pit. :p

-Melee:
Since all the current melee weapons are bladed, I think a heavy, blunt weapon like a crowbar would fit in nicely. To add a little mix to the choices. Something to smack opponents in the head with.

-Pistol:
With all the pistols that are coming in, like the magnum, energy pistol and uzis, I can't think of any new versions. Maybe a weaker pistol with a larger clip?

-SMGs:
I think some variants of the SMG would fit nicely in Ballistic. Like an XK4, a stouter version of the the XK2 that is slightly stronger and slower. Maybe with a laser sight instead of a silencer.

-Shotguns:
What I would love to see in terms of shotguns is a fully automatic one. :D A big drum fed monster like in Deus Ex would complete the mix.

-Assault Rifles:
I like the idea of a scoped G36, the one that Mr.UglyPants was talking about. A larger, stronger and more long ranged rifle.

-Rifles:
I'm with adding in a huge rifle like the Barrett XM-109. :p Maybe a Skrith sniper too. There are only 3 Skrith weapons currently.

-Launchers:
There already is a pretty good rocket launcher in Ballistic. Though how about an anti-personell grenade launcher? Those would be fun to play with in low gravity.

-Extra:
A human pulse rifle would be nice too, since the descriptions on some of the weapons say that we made some energy weapons to combat the Skrith.

Author:  Bjossi [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:44 am ]
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Just add a lighter rocket launcher for more action based use, and a big and nasty wrench would complete that mix in my opinion. :)

Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:28 pm ]
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I second Sgt. Kelly's suggestions! Except for the anti-personell grenade launcher, which I think should be as Bjossi suggests, a lighter rocket launcher.

Author:  cyberax [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:02 am ]
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Sgt. Kelly wrote:
I heard that Ballistic is going to be including more simple weapons in the next few versions of the mod. So I'd like to add some weapon ideas to the bottomless pit. :p


Ideas are always welcome :)

let me add my two cents :)
Yes and no, actually they will be adding a few "simple" weapons to BW, and by simple I mean, less specific coding for the weapon, and more generalised coding. Things like simple pistols and rifles can all use the same code, just with different parameters. However some of the more complex weapons require a bit more work on the coding side. This just makes it easy to produce weapons faster and easier for the developers :)

However, QUALITY WILL NOT BE COMPROMISED!
RS believes in quality work, both graphicaly and coding wise, and I think they have made their mark by sticking to those principals and producing some kick-ass work!

Personally, I would like to see tons of weapons to suite everyone's taste. However the devs can't spend their whole life just making/adding weapons! So we have to move on. BUT don't get me wrong, BW is going to be around for a long long time, but other projects will be released to be used with/without BW, and eventually will lead to project Archon, using the tested technology and skills and ideas gathered along the way, BW will still be available as BW, long live BW !lol

The next major version (probably 2.0) will require a lot of work (already under way) and will take some time, so they have to give you something to keep you busy along the way, like quick easy to make "simple" weapons :)

Ok, enough rambling from me, that's about 4 cents worth 8)

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:42 am ]
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Yeah, man looks like RS wants to totally own the Epic modding community (which is a great thing). and as Cyberaz said 'long live BW'!

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:03 pm ]
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BW will be bigger than UT2007 itself. :P

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:40 pm ]
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Wow, thats gonna be pretty big.

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:28 pm ]
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Yep, really really big. !dodge

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:37 pm ]
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Would it be so big that it'd block the sun or moon?

I like the idea for the new SMG the XK4 he called it. Or we make an MP5 kinda SMG that would be medium fast rof with low damage but you could possible have a melee attack like whacking the guy with the gun.

Author:  Carsomyr [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:38 pm ]
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Nah. I'm kinda opposed that we give some weapons a "hit them with the gun" melee attack, while not others. I think if you want to have a melee attack with a weapon, put something on the gun just for that, like a bayonet or tazer prongs. Being able to hit people with one shotgun and not another always buged me a little. But I guess for balancing puposes. . .

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:08 pm ]
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Maybe add a new key that is called Guns Melee Attack, and when you use that key, any gun you are carrying will perform a melee attack.
This would be pretty good if you got extra mouse keys. :)

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:25 pm ]
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Awww man if that happened i wouldn't have any free keys left!

Author:  Bjossi [ Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:51 pm ]
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Too bad for you then.

Author:  ShadowBlade [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:14 am ]
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yes.. we gonna be around alright.. interim project very near to final now.. then we have 2 release some maps... vehicles.. gore.. 2.0 and it goes on.. x) but at least we like our work..

anyway, i posted more info about our simple weapons..

Author:  ShadowBlade [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:19 am ]
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oh and thanx cyberax for the glorification of RS :)

i definetly think our simple weapons r a good idea.. and that dosent mean they r all gonna b just rifles and pistols, or only bullet weapons..

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:23 am ]
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Than by the holy hand of Thor what other weapons could possible be simple?

Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:53 am ]
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You'll see.

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:28 am ]
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Stop saying that! ~:(

Author:  cyberax [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:48 am ]
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Mr.UglyPants wrote:
Than by the holy hand of Thor what other weapons could possible be simple?


Go read the news on the front page :)

Author:  cyberax [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:50 am ]
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ShadowBlade wrote:
oh and thanx cyberax for the glorification of RS :)



It's a pleasure :D
After all it's big bro's job to make sure you get somewhere (who was asking you for years to do something with it??) 8)

Author:  DarkCarnivour [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:28 am ]
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Mr.UglyPants wrote:
Than by the holy hand of Thor what other weapons could possible be simple?


Anything from Rifles,Pistols, ARs, smgs and rocket launchers to laserguns, pulse guns, plamsaguns, shard guns, grenadelaunchers and skrith guns and the list goes on...
As long as it takes advantage of BW core code and has little of its own wierd and dificult to do stuff (like the FP9 or railgun, although now that they're done, most of their features are in the core)

Author:  Deuxhero [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:19 pm ]
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Bjossi wrote:
Just add a lighter rocket launcher for more action based use, and a big and nasty wrench would complete that mix in my opinion. :)


pluse it would work with the wrench sugjusted earlyer (that could repair vehicles and nodes it hit)

Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:54 pm ]
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Wrench as a repair item? That sounds pretty strange to me, doesn't really fit the semi-realistic theme in my personal opinion.

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:19 pm ]
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yeah we already have the skirth rifle which can heal/ repair friendly vehicles and nodes.

Author:  Bjossi [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:42 pm ]
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I still think there should be a repair gun or repair tool, I'd like to be able to damage nodes and vehicles with the skrith guns.

Author:  Carsomyr [ Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:05 pm ]
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You already can. Just not your own.

Author:  Redshift [ Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:17 am ]
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A "weapon" that can heal teammates (and its owner) would also be rather useful. Something relatively low tech like a syringe pistol for the humans and maybe something a bit more advanced for the Skrith. Or just one of these... Realistic, and a handy tool in all team based gametypes!

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:46 am ]
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Carsomyr wrote:
You already can. Just not your own.


If you spawn vehicles in deathmatch, you heal the enemy vehicle too.
Maybe that bug was fixed but I'm not sure.

Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:34 am ]
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Bjossi wrote:
I still think there should be a repair gun or repair tool, I'd like to be able to damage nodes and vehicles with the skrith guns.


I'm pretty sure you can damage enemy vehicles and nodes with the skirth rifle.

Author:  Bjossi [ Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:46 am ]
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Yes, but not in normal DM-based gametypes, only in team games.
But again, not sure if it is fixed or not, the last time I experienced this was with 1.1 beta.

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