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| Author: | Feralidragon [ Sat May 19, 2012 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Permission relative a few assets |
Hi all, I am not really sure where I should put this and towards who exactly atm, but here it goes: I am Feralidragon, and I am currently simply another of many existent devs in the UT1 (or UT99, or UT GOTY) community. I have been developing some mods, and one of them was specially well received by the community called Nali Weapons. Atm, I am developing (at a final phase I must add) the 3rd and potentially last version (Nali Weapons 3), and I am doing it completely alone (textures, sounds editing, coding, animation, effects, etc, etc), and the only external resources (sounds and a few base textures) I use come from the standard Unreal and UT series: UT2004, UT3, ..., and I have been doing so ever since I started modding as these are the only resources I (as any developer) can freely use among the UT series for modding. In fact, many times I take a couple of different sounds from all standard UT1, UT2k4 and UT3 and make a new one for the desired effect (by mixing, pitching, cuting here, adding there, etc, regular sound editing). However, today a user in youtube comented one of my NW3 preview videos, and recognized the sound of a weapon of mine called Vulcan as being a BW sound. I was going to respond it wasn't a BW sound and I was going to tell which sound it was, but as I didn't remember well where I took it from (UT2k4 or UT3 or other), I made a search in those installs, and I couldn't find it. A few minutes later I equated the possibility of that being a BW sound indeed, so I downloaded your biggest pack from moddb, and the user was correct. I was stunned... So I took out an hour to crosscheck the textures and sounds I didn't recognize right away from the original games, with the BW assets, and the conclusion is that I am using a few sounds and 2 textures (a single decal and a muzzle flash effect texture). Worse, those same assets were in Nali Weapons 2, which was released around 3 years ago, which means I just reused them in NW3 thinking since they were in NW2 they were safe. Obviously, I was mistaken. Honestly, I don't know how exactly that happened back then (perhaps as I used the editor back then, I had BW at some point and they got loaded into the editor and I didn't notice, specially since I was still exploring the UT2k4 assets back then), as it surely never was my objective use any external asset without some sort of authorization, but fact is, I did unintentionally, and for that I deeply apologize. Which leads me to an humble request: Could you guys give me permission to keep using those assets (just the assets I found I was already using, nothing more)? If the answer is yes, then you will lift a big weight from my back relative this issue and I thank you, plus obviously I will credit you guys for those, however if the answer is no, then I will fully respect it (as I should from the beginning if I had been more careful) and do a throughly inspection in NW3 and remove any BW asset (2 textures and just a few sounds I believe), and research into UT2k4 and UT3 for other sounds to edit so they can sound alike. No other sound will fit a few weapons so well and the community will have to wait a while longer for the pack, but it was my mistake nonetheless and therefore whatever the outcome, I am the responsible for it and I have to live with it. Best regards, and sorry |
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| Author: | Sgt. Kelly [ Sat May 19, 2012 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
A couple of the other modders and I noticed that your minigun was using the XMV-850's sounds and effects, though we thought you were fully aware of it. The people you'll want to PM for permissions are ShadowBlade or DarkCarnivour, by the way. If for whatever reason you don't get permissions, I may be able to cook up some replacements for you. 
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| Author: | Feralidragon [ Sun May 20, 2012 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
So you guys were also aware of it already? Well, just checked there was a NW3 topic opened here, so I guess the youtube user saw the video through there (also whoever that user is, thank you, if that guy never mentioned that detail, I would have released the new pack with it totally unaware of it). Anyway, yeah, I was not aware at all they were BW sounds at all during this time, for me they were sounds from either UT2k4 or Unreal 2 or UT3 (I still wonder how this happened at all...). If I was about to conscientiously use any of your assets, I would have contacted you guys about it and ask permission. I rarely use anything else besides the realm of my own built stuff (which is most of it) and UT standard stuff (mainly sounds, one of my biggest weaknesses as a dev but which I am trying to overcome little by little, and a few base seamless textures to build skins upon and a few explosion effects which I generally modify anyway), but when I do, I ask permission, or at least try to if the developer is still around. Well, I tried to PM them just now and it seems I have to do more posts, so hopefully they may look at this topic and reply. In case I don't get permission to, then thank you, I really appreciate it, but don't worry (I am sure you have better things to do anyway with the mods I have seen around here  ), it's a lesson learned and I will just have to seek other sounds and do some photoshop work if that ends up being the case, and next time I will have to be much more careful with what I use.
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| Author: | Blade sword [ Sun May 20, 2012 2:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
Hi there, that's cool to see you here, I think you know who I am, if you remember of me from the beyond unreal forums
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| Author: | Feralidragon [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
Blade sword wrote: Hi there, that's cool to see you here, I think you know who I am, if you remember of me from the beyond unreal forums It's possible, but I am not really recognizing you with that nick "Blade sword". What's your nick in BU? |
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| Author: | Blade sword [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
Blade hunter 
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| Author: | Feralidragon [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
Ah, cool. I am mostly used to see you in moddb rather than BU though (your old mod uploads to UnrealTournament section, specially when L4Y closed the downloads section). |
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| Author: | Blade sword [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Permission relative a few assets |
Yeah I uploaded some stuff from LY and put some downloads to mods in the UT 2004 section. I pretty much did it first for sergeant kelly's mod, because I found that his mod needed some advertising
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