You have never played the BP4, the beta testers have.

i think he meant the people who he thought were testers, like the one guy he quoted.

thats was not my point... all im saying is, is have faith in RS... we have no reason to doubt them

lol lots of dots...........................................................................................................

I have lots of faith in RS, all I need is to see a changelog in order to shake away the doubts that crawled into my mind.

Doubts ? are you becoming an infidel Bjossi?

No serious it would be indeed nice to have a sort of a changelog like The B-man said.
Just with the minor changes or so to give us some clues and "tease" us somewhat

Now it's 'early next year'. :}

i tink you mean early next year. im correct am i not.

Nah, I just felt that the devs didn't handle the beta testing too well this time around. They are busy guys, no doubt about that, but in the past sessions they were a lot more involved, especially DC. We hardly heard from him with the BP4 beta.

Also, there was only one beta release. This is the first time that happens, and I can safely say that the reason is not because the new weapons were bug free. . .

To put a conclusion here; to me this particular RS release feels rushed, and that is not the Runestorm I know. : /


A meaty changelog would easily shake away these thoughts tho, so SB, make it happen.

Blast. *Sigh* Should have sponsored sooner, then a few of my weps would have gotten into Bp4. However, I'll avoid the extra costs of sponsoring them in the middle of another project, and sponsor after BP4. Still, these weapons look pretty nasty... looks like someone dug up that old micro-missle launcher idea from a few months ago.
*Snickers* Ah, now THAT will be a fun new toy to play around with....

Ok, this is unfair. The devs have said that there's going to be another beta before the pack is released, but you're making it sound like they're going to release it without any further changes, which just isn't true. I'd agree that as it is now it's buggy, incomplete and not up to Runestorm's standards, but that's just because it's not finished yet. Remember the 2.1 beta? There were bugs and problems with that right up till the final release, but it turned out great in the end.



Heh, guilty

I suspect everyone's already figured this out already, but for those who haven't:

If you want to know a bit about 2 of the new weapons, have a look at this thread. ...or don't, if you prefer surprises

Are we there yet? can i have Icecream? i have to pee, are we there yet?

I never said that. I was under the impression they were gonna fix/implement some of the stuff suggested by the beta testers, without testing. A mention of an update was almost a month after the initial release, well hidden if I may add, almost managed to miss it today and I read pretty much everything on these forums.

Anyways, I'm deeply sorry for underestimating you SB and DC, although you could be a bit more "updative" to the testers, it was unfair of me to judge you like this. I guess I was getting unreasonably impatient.

That being said, we all should now stop discussing the beta here, and instead go back to the BP4 teaser pictures on the front page.

i will apologize to all for the lenghty update to this

we've been pretty much stuck in ut2k4 for a couple years now, and it's getting old.. we need to do what we really want and expand our plans.. this pack features great weapons, and they play very well.. thanks to RedShift and sgnl05 for designing these awesome guns

i've just uploaded another beta test, and next week we'll do the final test version, and if nothing horrific occurs, a release will follow.. (that timeline is what we're seriously aiming for).. we've been busy at tons of stuff for ages.. almost done.. as soon as we can, we'll also buy UT3, and see what can be done.. with any luck, a port will be nice and easy it's just a bloody expensive game

Well, you can be happy that you don't have to do any major things for UT2004 anymore, just occasional BPs sponsored by the fans.

And if you got decent amount of money from RedShift and sgnl this time around, it might be enough to get a copy of UT3.

I'm pretty sure lots of people are going to enjoy these devices of destruction!
It has been going a bit slow lately, we have been busy and did take a break of sorts during christmas, but it will be out very soon!

As for my lack of participation; I was lucky this time round! I didn't have to do ANY code at all, it just magically materialized out of thin (but boiling hot african) air. And the models, tests, a few textures and everything else just completed themselves, on their own...

If you are a beta tester, I would apreciate (in fact I would expect) you to keep your complaints about bugs to the proper forum as well as your requests for anything beta related (like changelogs)...

As for the lucky people who don't have to endure being a beta tester, you don't have to worry. If a bet atester tells you its god bugs, you know those bugs will be gone by the time you get it!

Sorry about those glitches in teh screenshots, can't wait to get the new gfx card!

I sure hope everyone likes the new weapons! I'm sure most people will, there are some pretty awesome things in there!

No need to be sarcastic, by lack of participation I didn't mean the beta itself, but the beta testing team; keeping them well informed about progress, upcoming events, etc. should always be a high priority, assuming you want as good end result as possible.

As for the screenshots, you should maybe ask someone else to take them. UglyPants and me have top notch computers, for examples.

Not a big deal actually.

True, but one wants to show the best sides of their creation. It is basic advertising.

I can turn my computer up to max graphics on 2k4 also, just as the resolution to a max of 1024*768 though, as that's my monitor's highest resolution. Not like my weak computer can't handle that for a while too (30FPS average with stuff turned forever on for about 10 minutes in a tiny map).

Mine can go to 1280 x 1024. If someone else can top that, then we got a winner. The higher res, the better.

Here's an idea: The ones displayed on the website can be downscaled versions, like 640 x 480, but you can click on them to get the original size, which could be 1280 x 1024 or even 1600 x 1200. (or widescreen equivalents)

sgnl05, the man-portable cannon is actually better than most think. Less an explosive piece of artillery, and more of a modern-day version of ancient cannons, and, essentially, a huge rifle that fires giant slugs Hope it has some splash, though. A huge, armour-piercing slug would still fragment on impact. Or cause what it hits to fragment.... *snickers at the idea of firing the cannon, and watching as huge fragments and shrapnel fly everywhere into nearby enemies* I love this mod....

I like to think that they're going to spend my money on a well earned vacation, because they've certainly earned it by now

Heh, their idea of vacation is not traditional ya know.

I didn't, but this sounds like a good story. Tell it!

This vacation was after the release of 2.0 if I remember correctly, you might be able to find a thread in Chit-chat about it. At least I'll need to dig it up to freshen my memory.

Edit: Finding that thread is not easy, I did find a hiking trip thread and "After 2.0" where SB did some random modelling and DC coding, could be the vacation they talked about back then, but don't quote me on that.

I really would send you those 60 or 70 $ if you would offer Pay-Pal. Here in Austria nobody trusts in E-Gold and neither do i. Some say it sometimes even doesn's work . However i'm really glad that you guys make such fantastic mods!!

Well, if you had an address you could just buy & send the RS guys a copy of UT3. PayPal doesn't do S-Africa, but nothing stops you from sending packages to them. (as long as you got the necessary info)

Just brainstormin'.

Sadly PayPal can't be used to recieve funds if you live in South Africa
e-gold is ok'ish but not perfect, also lately the USA goverment has something against some of the e-gold traders which is not good...

ugh... why us god? WHY US!!!

Man, I can run everything on the absolute highest settings, and it should be perfect with my specs. But no matter what my settings are, it will always hitch like a piece of crap because those jerks at Nvidia haven't bothered to make their 8800 card drivers work with ue2 games in windows xp. It really sucks, because poor performance was mainly what started getting me out of playing ut2k4. I got UT3, and it runs like a dream on the highest settings, but that game is so disappointing that I want to play more BW again. Now, if I want this three year old game to run the way it should on my top o' the line hardware, I have to get that resource hog vista, or wait for nvidia to fix their xp support (it's been over a year now, I don't think they'll do it).