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Author:  Carsomyr [ Tue May 23, 2006 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
I think the vertical "kick" from firing the pistol needs drastically reduced. Especially if it's going to keep it's burst fire option. If you use the burst fire, it's nearly impossible to hit with more than one of the rounds at anything but point-blank range due to the amount that the muzzle kicks upwards after each shot. Also makes firing semi-auto at any speed very difficult. I can understand if we have a lot of vertical kick like that for the upcoming high-powered pistols, but couldn't you reduce it for the current weaker pistol at least?
Author:  Bjossi [ Tue May 23, 2006 4:13 pm ]
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That was my very same concern but I never posted about it.
I find the pistol often useless because of it's insane recoil. :S
Author:  Redshift [ Tue May 23, 2006 6:20 pm ]
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Yeah, what he / they said!
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Tue May 23, 2006 7:51 pm ]
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Needs to be reduced but not soo much that it becomes spammy!
Author:  Carsomyr [ Tue May 23, 2006 7:59 pm ]
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Spammy like the Skrith pistol, you mean? jk

I'm in agreement, it ought to be reduced, but carefully. The thing's still pretty lethal the way it is now as long as you take carefully aimed shots, but I was under the impression the new revolver is meant to be the long-range high-powered handgun. I'd recommend that the damage per shot also be reduced, along with the recoil.

Post edited by: Carsomyr, at: 2006/05/23 21:15
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Tue May 23, 2006 9:40 pm ]
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not that kind of spammy you really don't have a clue what i mean by "spammy"!

Its more or less a weapon which is very accuarte very powerful and esay to get kills with!
Author:  Morter [ Wed May 24, 2006 12:47 am ]
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Either way, the semi-high rate-of-fire is made obsolete by the recoil of the gun.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Wed May 24, 2006 1:23 am ]
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thats only for the burst fire option on the pistol!
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 1:41 am ]
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I disagree. The recoil is just as bad in semi-auto as it is in burst. The burst just gives a little higher rate of fire, and makes the recoil even more unmanageable. I don't know what the mod team intended for this weapon, but if they want the recoil to limit RoF, you'd wonder why they put in the burst option at all. Either way, I'm not part of the mod team, so that kinda limits my rights to whine, but I'd like to see the pistol a little more capable of keeping up with other sidearm weapons like the MRT6 and the XK2.
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Wed May 24, 2006 1:48 am ]
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it defeinately needs balancing especially with the xk2 around, i thought the pistol was cool until i used it for the first time, and then never again.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Wed May 24, 2006 2:31 am ]
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Man everyone is a pistol hater, just wait until the new BW pistol comes around than everyone will love pistols again!!
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 2:44 am ]
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Sure, we'll love the new pistols, but I want the old one to be useful too!
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Wed May 24, 2006 2:57 am ]
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yeah i am definately looking forward to the magnum...revolvers just have class.
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 3:00 am ]
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Yeah, they do, but I've always felt like they're a little clumsy. Still, I'm sure they'll be awesome, everything to come out of RS is jaw-dropping.
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 3:00 am ]
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Yeah, they do, but I've always felt like they're a little clumsy. Still, I'm sure they'll be awesome, everything to come out of RS is jaw-dropping.
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Wed May 24, 2006 3:18 am ]
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revolvers dont have to be clumsy if you use a speed loader..its like those plastic rings that hold coke cans together in 6 packs but for bullets. i think their should be a type of fire selector on it too from single shot to "fan" like how cowboys shoot, that would really make a cool animation too. i definately dont like the 2 barrel thing though...two barrels doesn't work on everything. actually it would look really neat if it looked like the one used by vin diesel in xXx...now that was a good looking gun.

Post edited by: Rayne870, at: 2006/05/24 04:20

Post edited by: Rayne870, at: 2006/05/24 04:23
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 4:04 am ]
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I know what a speedloader is, I've used one myself. But I've always felt something awesome about feeling the slide slam shut on an automatic pistol. And yeah, I like the xXx revolver. And I REALLY don't get how you would make a double-barreled revolver work. . .unless you had the rounds arraged in pairs of two around the cylinder. . .but that would make it HUGE. Huh. Weird. If they DO make it that way, though, I'll be interested to see how they do it.
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Wed May 24, 2006 4:12 am ]
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sounds like were both gun educated..im used to my classmates talking about guns and not knowing anything but thinking they do, biggest thing ive shot is a carl-gustav...now thats power
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 4:52 am ]
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Guess so. I hate people who talk about things like they know what they're talking about but know nothing. I've got a kid in my class who wrote a 20 page paper on modern guns for his final, and can't tell me the basic the difference between blowback and gas-operated guns.

I've never handled a C-G myself. Bigget thing I've ever fired. . .well, I guess I've got a few tied for actual round size, but the Mosin-Nagant replica was the one with the biggest punch. Gotta love old WW2 bolt-action rifles.

Anyhow, I'm really looking forward to the new pistols, but I do feel kinda bad for the current one, getting left in the dust and all by the new toys. Something ought to be done for it.
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Wed May 24, 2006 4:58 am ]
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yes save the pistols! not the whales! or save the pistols to save the whales...heh "headshot"
Author:  Redshift [ Wed May 24, 2006 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
Carsomyr wrote:
Quote:
I'm in agreement, it ought to be reduced, but carefully. The thing's still pretty lethal the way it is now as long as you take carefully aimed shots,
but I was under the impression the new revolver is meant to be the long-range high-powered handgun. I'd recommend that the damage per shot also be reduced, along with the recoil.[/quote]

If it's power vs control, I think I'd rather keep the power. With just 12 shots in the mag, castrated bullets would suck ass. :S Better add a 3rd pistol, a high capacity, accurate but relatively weak 9mm. If there are 3 different shotguns, why not 3 different pistols? ;)

Post edited by: Redshift, at: 2006/05/24 17:13
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 5:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
Quote:
If it's power vs control, I think I'd rather keep the power. With just 12 shots in the mag, castrated bullets would suck ass. Better add a 3rd pistol, a high capacity, accurate but relatively weak 9mm. If there are 3 different shotguns, why not 3 different pistols?


They're already planning three pistols. The one we've got, a high powered revolver, and a high powered semi. Go check the weapons details page on the far left menu. So as far as I can tell, the current one is actually supposed to be the weak one with a hi-cap magazine. Hence my complaints about it's recoil, and my recommendation that it's power be reduced slightly if it's not supposed to be a heavy weapon.

Edit: I want to hear from the Mods on this one.

Make sense?

Post edited by: Carsomyr, at: 2006/05/24 18:07
Author:  Redshift [ Wed May 24, 2006 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
Carsomyr wrote:
Quote:
They're already planning three pistols. The one we've got, a high powered revolver, and a high powered semi. Go check the weapons details page on the far left menu.
So as far as I can tell, the current one is actually supposed to be the weak one with a hi-cap magazine.[/quote]Edit: I want to hear from the Mods on this one.[/quote]

Yeah...
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
Yeah. . .Time to ask the BW team. The M80-whatever is a pretty good mid-range pistol, could use some recoil tone down, but not too much.

But I wanna know why they're considering TWO high-powered pistols without one for the other end of the spectrum.
Author:  Bjossi [ Wed May 24, 2006 9:04 pm ]
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Are they going to make akimbo support for the lighter guns perhaps? Having two pistols can make you much deadlier opponent.
Author:  Carsomyr [ Wed May 24, 2006 9:34 pm ]
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Um. . .okay, why not? I don't really care, long as it's not imbalanced. Or stupid.
Author:  Dracone [ Wed May 24, 2006 9:47 pm ]
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Hmmmm ok I get off here. I don't know as much about more military style guuns. Just a lot about hunting and the guns used.
Author:  Mr.UglyPants [ Thu May 25, 2006 1:50 am ]
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Bjossi wrote:
Quote:
Are they going to make akimbo support for the lighter guns perhaps? Having two pistols can make you much deadlier opponent.


It would be cool to dual weild the side arms!

(theirs already a mut that has great dual wielding for UT2004 weapons and some other weapons, BW weapons are a problem with it though)!

Post edited by: Mr.UglyPants, at: 2006/05/25 02:51
Author:  Carsomyr [ Thu May 25, 2006 2:45 am ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
Yeah, I think it'd be schweet. I think two guns ought to be hi-cap enough. And I'd still like to see a glock-ish design. Doesn't have to be a real life gun, though. I like how all of RS's weapons are at least a little out there.
Author:  Rayne_870 [ Thu May 25, 2006 2:52 am ]
Post subject:  Pistol recoil fix
i think with the two revolvers coming out it would be fairly easy to just tone down the recoil and slightly decrease the power, increase the mag capacity and rate of fire. this could easly be explained by using a smaller bullet this would allow us to keep the same aesthetic design we have all come to love.
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