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| Author: | Deuxhero [ Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Just something i'd like, the spread is rediclous as it is now and gives no reason to use burst over a short time of full auto |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
use semi-auto then. But yes, the weapon fire modes need to be looked at, maybe the devs will look into it in 2.0 |
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| Author: | Bulska [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
I don't like the clip size of the M50 too... 30 is too little for a close encounter. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Trust me, the M50 has a perfect clip size, any bigger, and it be too powerful. |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
....um...the m50 spread is great, much better than a real m16, m18, or c7...and firing on auto you would not get a grouping as good as the m50's im surprised there arent more accidents on rifle ranges... |
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| Author: | Morter [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
It's odd though, but I find that I can aim much easier with the M50 while NOT using iron sights. I manually control the bursts, though, leaving it on full auto for certain situations. The spread ain't bad. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
yeah, well in actual practice, the iron sights in BW are useless. They don't give you a bit of zoom (they do, but its like 2%, not very noticeable),it still shows the crosshair, so even if your using them you still rely on the cross hairs instead of the iron sights. And, they aren't really iron sights, because RS model is so they never line up straight always down-up (back of gun to the barrel). If the iron sights are to become a very important feature in BW (which would be wonderful) the devs would unfortunately have to redo them all over again, even the M50. |
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| Author: | uzi4u [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Rayne_870 wrote: im surprised there arent more accidents on rifle ranges... Why do you say that? |
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| Author: | Redshift [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Mr.UglyPants wrote: yeah, well in actual practice, the iron sights in BW are useless.
True, and most of the gun models don't look too hot either in iron sights mode.  Fortunately, they look and work (more than) fine in regular mode.
Btw, apparently some (wannabe) 'hardcore' gamers play with Hidden Weapons. That is ABOMINATION!! Surely Beelzebub shall harvest their souls and cast them into the deepest chasm of Hell. 
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Those poor stupid souls. Glad you agree redshift. |
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| Author: | Carsomyr [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Shrug. I don't like playing with hidden weapons. Takes a lot of fun out of the game. But in regular UT04 I'll sometimes do it when I'm playing just to win, it seems to up my response time a bit. But agreed, it takes a heck of a lot of fun out of the game. I haven't used it in a year or so. Forgot the option even exists. . . |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
The hidden weapons option should be removed; everyone is equal and everyone gets to enjoy the 1st person weapon models. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Hidden Weapons? where? |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
its some command you put into UT2k4. I have no idea where it is though. |
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| Author: | Miracle Matter [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:56 pm ] |
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Settings > Player > Preferred Hand > Hidden |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:14 pm ] |
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Rayne_870 wrote: ....um...the m50 spread is great, much better than a real m16, m18, or c7...and firing on auto you would not get a grouping as good as the m50's
im surprised there arent more accidents on rifle ranges... Hum… that means Hollywood got it wrong in all those moves. Ah well you have to admit a full clip on full auto goes by real fast but looks vary cool I thought you meant weapons that were locked, and that people had to unlock them by doing something |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
...ammo does go fast on auto, very fast and innaccuracy rises sharply having fired many weapons on auto and burst i say that i am surprised that there arent more accidents on ranges because a majority of the people i have met on ranges are stupid, and it is really easy to lose control of your firearm when using full auto, first time i fired on full auto i had nearly a a 30 degree arc upwards and that was with only 10 or so rounds left in the mag oh and in actual reply to changing the burst and auto accuracy of the m50...it is fine the way it is, you guys should be compensating for the rise in fire by aiming down a bit while firing, just like how its done in real life |
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| Author: | uzi4u [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Rayne_870 wrote: ...ammo does go fast on auto, very fast and innaccuracy rises sharply
having fired many weapons on auto and burst i say that i am surprised that there arent more accidents on ranges because a majority of the people i have met on ranges are stupid, and it is really easy to lose control of your firearm when using full auto, first time i fired on full auto i had nearly a a 30 degree arc upwards and that was with only 10 or so rounds left in the mag oh and in actual reply to changing the burst and auto accuracy of the m50...it is fine the way it is, you guys should be compensating for the rise in fire by aiming down a bit while firing, just like how its done in real life Well, there aren't more accidents on rifle ranges because, honestly, there aren't that many full autos/ selctive fires brought to rifle ranges. Kind of expected when they run over $10,000 US, but we are kinda digressing here, aren't we? |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:21 pm ] |
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...im ex infantry...i should have mentioned that earlier |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:26 pm ] |
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Maybe I should point out that is has gone far off topic. |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
duely noted...so i'll just say the jump caused by automatic and burst fire is something that the user needs to compensate for...otherwise we'd end up back at spammy skilless guns of original ut2004 |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
The spread for the M50's primary burst fire is a little crazy, I agree with that. I always fire full auto in intervals and I get damn accurate hits that way. |
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| Author: | Dark_Watcher [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
I use full auto in burst of up to five at rang, more if there closer |
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| Author: | Abbadon [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Seems like its inaccuracy is rather realistic, and if you control your fire it isn't a problem. If you're doing a full spray on the other hand, shouldn't it be inaccurate with that kind of firepower? |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Also you could just use the scroll thing to reduce recoil and chaos. |
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| Author: | Abbadon [ Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
That too. Besides, sometimes recoil is fun when you're feeling crazed and berserk. |
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| Author: | ShadowBlade [ Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
i dont think this went off-topic at all  keeping with how rifles recoil sounds like the topic to me 
honestly, the M50 needs no tweaking IMO.. and like Rayne said, IRL u tend to fire in short bursts more than full auto.. i'll look over our M50 burst, and see how it is.. 
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Abbadon wrote: That too. Besides, sometimes recoil is fun when you're feeling crazed and berserk.
When I feel that way I prefer no recoil. |
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| Author: | Carsomyr [ Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Hmm. Anyways, I think the m50 shouldn't have it's burst accuracy boosted even if it IS a little realistic. The thing is already a staple weapon, probably the most versatile thing in the entire arsenal at the moment. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tighten up the spread on the m50s burst |
Exactly. Its the main weapon that defined BW. So no changing. |
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