I thought the guns already auto-reloaded when you try to fire with an empty clip.
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| Author: | Penfold [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:14 am ] |
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It doesn't happen often, but sometimes you just happen to run out of ammo just before you were about to stop shooting anyway... With all the noise an action, your opponent doesn't notice the quiet "Click" of the hammer with no primer to strike just as he stops shooting. Then, later on you he gets the drop on you, you see him on the edge of your screen, and you know you're doomed. But he does nothing! As you take aim, he starts to reload, and you suddenly realize that as quick as the hammer falls on an empty chamber, you've gone from being the sitting duck, to shooting the sitting duck. Or, if the roles are reversed, you're panicking. This situation doesn't really happen when the shoot button defaults to reload when weapon is empty. as BW currently is. It lessens how often it happens greatly, and when it does happen, it's less of a panic, your already reloading, instead of wondering, for that split second, why YOUR GUN ISN'T FIRING! Many shooters these days have an option for "auto reload" but I think it should be a game setting so that it affects all players. It's fun this way, but only if it affects all players, otherwise, it's just a handicap. This option would also be best served with another option for the truly hardcore: A number box to add a custom delay time that slows down the time it takes to put away any weapon that has had the trigger pulled. This way, it wouldn't slow down toggling through weapon changes using the mouse wheel, but would add realism so that you could give the game a more tactical feel. Also, it would make the situation above that much more of a panic or a joy, as it could deprive the panicking one the option to quickly change to another weapon instead of reloading. If you agree with me and would like to see this option, LET IT BE KNOWN. The more attention this gets, the more likely they might do it. (and it should be relatively easy to code) |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:29 am ] |
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I thought the guns already auto-reloaded when you try to fire with an empty clip.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:47 pm ] |
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I lived on that auto-reload after an empty clip for a long time, until i releaised that you could assign a key to it. Works so much better now. |
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| Author: | Penfold [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:45 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: I thought the guns already auto-reloaded when you try to fire with an empty clip.
The idea is to make an option that the auto-reload function does not work, and that the only way of reloading is with the reload key. |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:52 pm ] |
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Thats just a waste of option. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:13 pm ] |
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I actually think this is a good idea, now that I don't misunderstand it anymore. I'm all for an option like this. It could be put in the same area as the optional reloading itself in the BW config. |
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| Author: | Penfold [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:19 pm ] |
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Oh, and when "No Auto Reload" box is checked (as I'd imagine it might be named) then it should also disable the low ammo red flashing icon deal on the HUD as well. Oh, and to reiterate, please have this be a global setting for all players (if enabled, of course), and not an individual user "preference", as if it's not global, it would only be a handicap. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:26 pm ] |
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It could be named Disable Auto-Reload, when flagged it simply disables auto-reloading as the name says. 
I don't see the point in disabling the flashing icon when low on ammo though. So I can't really vote in favor of it... |
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| Author: | Penfold [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:20 pm ] |
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Bjossi wrote: I don't see the point in disabling the flashing icon when low on ammo though. So I can't really vote in favor of it...
The whole point of this idea, as I see it, is to increase the odds of there being a one on one situation in which one player has a loaded weapon and the other player has an unloaded weapon. (or, in rare hollywoodesque moments, both players take aim at eachother, both pull the trigger, and both have to reload before they can shoot eachother, now that would be an entertaining moment of gameplay) Having a flashing icon at the bottom of the screen decreases the odds of this occurring significantly. For the sake of realism, AND fun, it would be best not to have any more of an alert to low ammo as necessary. Come to think of it, there should be another option, the ability to hide the in-weapon ammo count. The total (in weapon + in inventory as one quantity) rounds left would be fine to display, just not the amount of ammo that is currently within the weapon. And I'm not talking having a player remove it from there hud settings, I'm talking global so that it affects all players. That would be excellent. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:27 pm ] |
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I see your point now, it might be fun to have around. And the other one too; to hide the ammo displays. These ideas might require a new tab to the config menu labelled as simply 'Reloading'. |
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| Author: | Penfold [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:52 pm ] |
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The Weapons of the Ballistic Weapons mutator, the control restraint of the Tweak Tool UT2004, the gameplay mode of ChaosUT2's KOTH, the ease of UnrealEd, and distant memories of first playing KOTH gameplay in Delta Force, have inspired me to start making a map. One that I might actually complete. And it's been years since I've done that. Hopefully it'll actually come to fruition. It won't be a masterpiece graphically, but it should be a lot of fun for those who dig KOTH gameplay and CQB. I just hope I can plant specific weapons in specific locations. BRAVO, I say to the Ballistics Weapon Team and to the community who has contributed to it. And BRAVO again to whoever came up with the idea, and to whoever created the option to ACTUALLY COOK GRENADES! HELL YA! It's sad (on UbiSofts part, NOT BW's part) that a UT2004 mod has bested a niche realism option that not even Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter offers. How advanced is a warfighter who can't even cook a grenade? That's been around since, what, WWI?   
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:44 pm ] |
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Well good luck with the mapping Penfold. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:00 pm ] |
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Yeah, good luck from me as well, although I'm not sure why you brought it up in this thread.
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:04 pm ] |
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Maybe he hasn't discovered the wonders of the Maps Talk forum, we its somewhere. Easy to find. |
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| Author: | Rayne_870 [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:15 pm ] |
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cool idea, an exactly why have a very habitual tactical reload |
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| Author: | Mr.UglyPants [ Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:25 pm ] |
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WTF Rayne? |
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| Author: | Bulska [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:20 am ] |
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this is something that is necesarry. I've seen loads of problems because those stupid dual Fifty-9 auto-reload when my ammo is empty, while the hostile is in my face. I want to hack his head off, but I cant because the stupid thing autoreloads. Also, it must be possible to abort reloading with any firing key. So ur reloading, but then press altfire to hack ur enemy. |
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| Author: | Bjossi [ Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:40 am ] |
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You can abort reloading the shotgun when you press the fire key, but that may just be a bug in that context. |
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