Oh, ok. I'd have to talk to BE about transports, see if he has any ideas (I'm thinking switchable collision boxes would be a possible, albeit ugly, fix)

Its not really a vehicle I'd miss if it doesn't work out well, it was just something I was playing around with.

Question: if it is made possible to buy vehicles, would it be possible to customise some things on it?
-weapons
-engines
-armour
-colour
-etc, etc...

would this be possible?

Nice work!!!... Man i never expected such a flood since i last posted.. I'll start intergrating stuff as soon a possible.. Be sure to give me either the .obj file or the .max file if you are using max..

Now Xav... i believe your plane's problem is still got to do with the pivots.. The 'MAIN' part of the craft must have the correct pivot.. failing fixing it give me the .obj and i'll make it good..

Now with all the pieces that i now have thanx to you guys... i can start adding them to stuff...

Just so you know i already have a way of adding changable doors and stuff for transports.. Giving them collision is not hard.. my plane class comes with a class called
a 'CustomCollisionActor'.. which can be used to add special collision or anyhting like that to a vehicle... but it requires some tinkering..

OK... I will consider the ideas you guys have and see what might work best..
I can tell you this though.. The idea for vehicle buying is possible.. As is the weapon buying(i've already planned that).. but as for Armor,Color,and such... i don't know.. maybe color, but other than that i can't say....

Now i havn't worked on it much since last post other than fix up the plane's collision problems..

I'll check back soon.. Maybe even with some new stuff...

Oh, crap, I can't believe I forgot to upload my Mesh as an OBJ before hand. Sorry about that, I meant to. And thanks for the help!

My minigun should be done today or tomorrow, by the way. As far as the mesh is concerned, it just needs an ammo box and ammo feed modeled out, and then I just need to UV map it.



I told you you'd get some help on this, BE.

Aaaand... The minigun is modeled out!




UV maps still need work yet.

Ooh, now that looks nice. If it's ok with you, could i have a try at texturing it? I know my first attempt at texturing your chainsaw, was... crap, but i think i've gotten a bit better at it... and it's the only thing I kind of know how to do too!

OK.. some nice work there Xav.. that will be used for sure..

And once i get the .OBJ i can fix up your mesh and you wont have to do anything..
Also i found out why it would not move forward.. My code was to blame.. it thought it had no power because it had no engines.. so it would not move.. But thats fixed now, so you shouldn't have to do anything to it other than improve it..

DC's devestating Thor tank has now been implemented into Bombardment so we have one more vehicle.. also the tower and MG has also been put up..

I will give you all the new update soon(Maybe) and i'll give you a whole bunch of pictures of Tanks, choppers, ships, planes, and such for an accurate depiction of how things look, so you know how to make things..

Keep up the good work..

Hey, thanks.

By the way, the plane model I gave you, I think I forgot to merge the verts together, one of the steps through porting it from Maya to UEd, to Blender separates the faces apart, leaves it ugly. Meh.

Anyways, I got it fixed up if you want it, and the minigun is ready for uploading. Each package has the UV maps for it. I think there's two UV maps per model.







Yeah! Go ahead! Textures are good! Though I have to admit, the UV map isn't the nicest for the minigun, but its pretty hard to UV map something like that...

If you think you done a poor job on my chainsaw, feel free to have another go at it some time if you like.

I do have to say though, that the blade looks great on it.

Oh, snap. It looks like the UV maps didn't export properly...

Alright, new, fixed UV maps up.

Excellent a new weapon...

I'll get it in as soon as possible.. Along with everything else...

Check back soon..

Alright, got a bit of my tent fleshed out. It'll be very easy to work with, once I get all the parts done.



I'll probably have a large open end piece that one could use as something of a garage in addition to the other pieces I mentioned, looking pretty much like what I got in the pic.

Zer0's texture package for my Bomber.

Well that IS excellent.. BTW, i've changed the UV's on your minigun and may make a skin for it myself(Because it's model is fit enough for real use..).

A handy tip for editing UV's, if you have things like barrels that don't need to be different, then make sure they all occupy the exact same space on your UV's.. This will give you more space for other parts, and will make it easier to texture..

Besides this, not much has changed with bombardment lately..

Keep up the good work..

Hey, i was thinking(and modelling for the contest ) on a feature to bombardment...
so, you can buy weapons for your tank. the default weapon for the tank is a single barreled cannon. then, you can buy other weapon, like a double barreled cannon, a lightining cannon, flamethrower, Minigun... etc.
maybe you can also upgrade the turret. put even a Sniper there
it would be cool if vehicles that can carry passengers could have a interior, and the passenger can both see outside the vehicle or inside it, with some windows to see what's happening outside.
don't know if those are possible, but would be cool.
and this one i think it isn't possible, but if we had jeeps or something like that, passenger could use their own weapons inside it.

Sounds like something that I'd wait later in production to add.

Yeah. first we should destroy all bugs.

Well it may be possible to have people walking freely inside vehicles.. Shouldn't be to hard..

Oh.. and about how the buying works.. You don't actually buy the weapon(like from a single barreled to a double),but you buy what it fires, such as a slower but higher damage shell, or a more accurate and less damage shell, or a more intellegent missile..

Anyway i'm sad to say that progress is slow..

These objectives systems suck..

Ah,like clockwork cannons.

Thanks for fixing up the UV map, BE. Sorry about that.

Great to hear you like it though.

I like the idea of buying alternate payloads. Can make the weapons behave quite differently, I imagine, especially for bombers. That should be quite awesome.

Though I wonder if it would be that difficult to have passenger weapons configurable. Hmm...

And don't worry about slow progress, I imagine you guys got a lot of work going on at the moment. I can wait.

By the way, I don't know a whole lot about coding, but if you want, I can try my hand at helping you with it some time.

I still don't got my tent peices done yet, kinda did nothing this weekend, save for working on a car and a halloween party, so my time was mostly eaten up.

I tihnk after the tent is done, some sorta artillery unit or a transport.

I have a question, all these structures that are getting made, are they put in the level the regular way, when making the level, or are they placed while playing, sorta like a strategy game crossed with an FPS, if that is the way it is done, then who and how would this happen?

And another question, assuming the top is true, how would you gather resources to build and run the bases, salvaging from wreckages would be a good option, but it would seem strange if you got more resources from a crashed jet than what it took to build it.
I suggest that there is some sort of resource system where you gather resources such as metal, energy, etc. from varios points around the map, where a special weapon which is handed out to all (like a translocator) which can "harvest" resources from these points and wreckages, although not enough resources to build a behemoth of a vehicle/structure. To better increase the amount of resources gathered, there should be vehicles which act as harvesters, allowing you to gather much more than you would on foot.

Because the map is so huge, there should be "robots" which serve a basic function such as harvesting, auto turrets and the like, which don't take orders and just do their main function.

And one last thing, whenever i crash the jet in the ocean, I have a hard time getting back to base, there needs to be some way to get around the map alot faster because of it's incredible size, swimming and running are not fun Although using translocators would be the easy way to go, there should be some easily stored mode of transport such as an easily compactible hoverboard or something like that.

I think that there should be some Petrol refineries/Gold Mines(or any Alien thing that gives money), that you can capture to generate money. having to harvest yourself could be boring sometimes.
(like when you attempt to harvest in a place and there is a camper there).
but i agree with you about the player without a vehicle. maybe it has an hoverboard, or there would be some portals in the map...
but then, the map we're currently playing is just an prototype too. only has the bases, maybe we could have a lot of mini-bases...
or you can even suicide
btw, can we allow more players in the game? we need more than 32 players on this gametype I think.

Is it possible to increase how far you can see before the world "disappears?"

yeah, this limit sucks...
and another thing that I noticed, although it was not related to BOM, is that the R78A1 Sniper, after some range, it doesn't fire actually in the center of the scope... at least it doesn't hit the enemy...

I was wondering the same about that draw distance... there might be a variable we can change in the base Unreal Engine itself with some sort of super mod...

Sorry i took so long to get back to you guys..DAMN conection problems!

Anyway i have Good news, and BAD!! news..

The good news is that the objectives now work, i was able to win a round by destroying things.. so does the money system i earned alot of money by killing things.. And i have even started making ships...

The bad news is that i discovered a HUGE problem with my code.. Given that my pc was just upgraded, i found that projectiles behaved strangly.. On a fast pc tank shells fall fast and don't go far, missiles travel too fast.. On a slow pc tank shells go too far, and misssiles go too slowly.. THIS IS BAD!!, because it leads me to believe that every bit of code i have ever made(Bombardment and otherwise) did not work the way it did on my pc.. This will take me a week at least to fix..

But in the mean time there are things you guys can have fun with.. I have included tutorials on making projectiles so have fun..

Now about how i think the game should work.. it would ruin the gameplay if some gut had to stand in one place and 'Harvest resources', not fun.. i think it would be much simpler and fun if you just roll out and crush things..i'm thinking of removing walking completely.. instead you just ride a scrambler until you find a better vehicle..

In the mean time if you need to get back to base quickly.. Just goto the consol and type 'Suicide'.. Then you will die and respawn..

You'll get the download soon, we hope..

Now a sneek peek at what i've been working on..

Do I spy a nuke?

It's bad about the problems, and that you now have to fix it... but at least you got some big stuff on the way...

kudos

That looks BRILLIANT! That code problem shouldn't take too long to fix I hope... maybe you could do some server type tricks to get the projectiles to go do the right thing. Or ask your bro for a bit o' help.

Wow! Awesome stuff! I was just about to PM you or one of your bro's to see if something was wrong (though I just recalled that ShadowBlade was having trouble getting through to RS and here...). Anyways, glad that problem got resolved.

Really weird how the projectiles are behaving, I didn't notice it myself, but I don't exactly know how they are supposed to behave.

Glad to hear about the objectives working! Loving the look of the Destroyer too!

As for scavenging, I'd have to agree, it'd kinda kill some fun standing there. Crushing it sounds like a very good alternative, would it require a specific salvaging class vehicle, or would it work for anything? Another idea, which could go with your idea, would be for drones to scout out from bases and automatically retrieve resources. They could be simple models with very basic AI, which might be kinda fun. They would give you additional targets if your bored too.


Interesting idea on the infantry free game play. I can't say I'd like it though, as there are many uses for infantry on a vehicle heavy battlefield, such as sabotage (planting trip line activated det packs on and around vehicles), mine fields, recon, some objectives, and infiltrating. Now if you always had an option to jump on a vehicle at any time, so that you wouldn't have to walk all the time if your vehicle is destroyed, that'd be cool, but I don't think infantry should be eliminated entirely. But I dunno, I'd have to see what all you got planned, I could be wrong.

So... wing walking in Bombardment?(BF1942)

Um, no, I don't think so... I'm referring more to how vCTF and Warfare for UT3 always gives you a hoverboard to use if you want. Something more along those lines.

yes, that is a good idea... btw whats wing walking?

Riding on plane wings by balancing.

Completely unrealistic,but BF1942's engine permitted it.

I had an idea for the weapon buying and such. It's basically what's done in Far Cry 2, but I did quite a few changes in the base idea (and made it look like MSDOS at the same time).