Oh ok. That was more of a sarcastic statement but sorry anyway...

If u do want the scope changed though perhaps u can make it less 'slim' and give it more 'bulk'. Maybe more like the sights of Blade's Viper SMG.



Its still gonna be good nevertheless.
That and if Blade is willing to change it again.
I see where u guys are going, it does appear to be somewhat tall.....But Im ok with that, maybe not everyone else though.

Yeah, I'm not digging the big piece on the barrel of the rifle... would be much cooler without.

Also, I am curious how this will be different than the LS-14 or LS440... it looks the same, just that it shoots yellow lasers.

well for starters, i assume it doesnt have the range of either the two.

Its more of a laser AR than a Laser Marksman Rifle IMO Of course i can be wrong though...

And they surely don't LOOK the same. The only thing they have in common is that they shoot lazors.

By function they can be different for all I know.

I think the sights are okay. That's just a thing of getting used to it I think.

About the barrel: how about being able tp put it on the gun with the weapon special key? The beam could then be a little stronger (because it is more focused through the longer barrel) but could result in a slightly lower fire rate.
Or would that be too complicated?

I actually like that idea more than separating the gun into two models. I can see the barrel changing the weapon from plasma to laser and vice versa.

And no CMGuy, this is not going to be a laser assault rifle, the laser firemode will be far closer to the shock rifle's.

Thanks for clearing that up, I guess this is gonna be the BW version of the Shock rifle.

I also support the idea of the changing laser, its better than making two different versions of the weapons.

I'll post some new update too.

Somebody will have to change the smoothing and paint the details that are done with the normal map.

FREAKEN AWESOME!!!

GJ dude.

Holy smokes that looks nice

Has that "weapon chaos even though I told it not to" thing been looked at? As I said, it pretty much renders the Jackson Automag basically useless.

What do you mean exactly...? Have to see what the big boys have to say about it.

LOL I personally find some other weapons more disgraceful than the automag 5 despite being more fan of the first version who looks a bit more of an handcannon designwise IMO

CMGuy, when he's asking me about code, telling him to use ironsights does nothing. Telling him to "wait and see" is likewise worthless because he's freaking asking about it.

To answer the question, the code for the automag seems perfectly fine, it just has grs1 style chaos in a .44 magnum package. I will probably tinker with it more once the model is ingame.

Misleading post, go ahead and disregard that then.

But still, it doesn't make sense, is it THAT awful..? I did not see any problem myself when I use it.

The only reason I can think of is that he goes fullauto, sustained fire does screw up the aim.

CMGuy, you've told me about the ironsights before. You didn't know what you were talking about then, and nothing's changed. Stop commenting on it please. Kelly said it was a bug, he would look into it, and I was asking if he had made progress on finding out.

FWIW Kelly, I think (I will have to test later) the GRS1 does that too, it flies all over the place when I so much as look around, let alone move and fire.

I thought that u didn't use em, if u use sights with controlled shots, u get better aim.
But sorry about this, I was just posting what I thought would help.
If maybe you can explain a little more in depth on what you are talking about next time, I might interpret it a little more easily. Sorry about the miscommunication and no hard feelings.

Anyway, the GRS1 is intended for close range, it would explain the bad aim for that thing. Not sure if the Automag is to be the same for close range, but SGT Kell told us the Aim code is taken straight from the GRS1, hence the similar bad aim and possible code problems and bugs.

Yes, you get better aim... when bugs aren't ruining it, and you're not using the settings I am (which are zero recoil or chaos. Everything fires in a straight line 100% of the time, or they're supposed to.)

I'm also really not sure how much more clear I can get with "My settings give me no weapon chaos but I still get it with this weapon". I could always go shoot a Youtube video. It worked for the "the CYLO-E kills guys too fast and I can't explode them" thing.

Hmm I see now. I got what you are trying to say this time.

I tested it out myself(using the settings you provided, no recoil and perfect aim) and I find this odd....


Both of my results for those two guns returned positive, they both worked as intended, I get perfect aim and no chaos for all the guns, including the Automag and GRS1. What puzzles me is why it doesn't work for you.

That just confuses me even more, how come I get straight shots when I use both the Automag and GRS1 then...?

Maybe you can try putting it back to the default settings, testing it out, then putting it back to Zero recoil and Chaos, and testing that out too.

I have no idea why it doesn't work for you. Its possible its the mod itself and not the guns.

Nah, I'll just remove the decimal place. It will shoot 50mm slugs.

MACHINE CANNON

Machine Hand-Cannon...?

Hey man keep it up, its looken like a beast.

Looks like that will punch a nice hole into something.

Yeah, maybe not as much as a double barreled magnum but its still gonna put holes in sumthin.

Behind the scenes updates:

- HMC firing and charging sound effects overhauled.
- HMC now has brand new effects for beam, laser, laser impacts and beam impacts.
- HMC damage increased.
- HMC laser overheats slower now.

And here are some scribbles I drew for its eventual remodel. I'm wondering whether to go with something vaguely H3 Spartan Laser styled or F3 Tesla Cannon styled. I'm leaning towards Spartan Laser at the moment.

I guess the Spartan Laser based one is good, but I also like this concept as well. Its a little more original than either of the two.



(by shelbs2)

These are just concepts so I don't really expect anything.


But if I have to choose between those two weapons you have told us about, Im leaning towards to laser.

Well as long there is a shiny new model in the end its ok.

Your picture would be the particle cannon from Wolfenstein.
http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/wolfen ... cannon.jpg
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l ... -found.jpg

Incidentally, the Tesla Cannon styled drawing took a lot of inspiration from that too.

Off topic: The guy who modeled that has pretty much the same airsoft collection that I do. Neato. He also modeled the same crossbow I was planning to include a long time ago. As well as these awesome sci-fi guns which I love. Guy's got good taste.